DaveLister Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68208157 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Tragic for him, his family and the nation. Let’s hope it can be got rid of. Also very tough on William. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLister Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 Apparently Harry is now planning to visit his dad. This does not bode well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 I do hope Harry is not bringing the wife! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Cancer is not necessarily a death sentence, nor is immediate as several of us are aware. My first diagnosis was in 2006..... I would imagine with the superb and constant medical attention that members of the Royal Family have that whatever it is it will have been spotted early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggers Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Found as a result of his recent prostate treatment but not prostate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLister Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, NormanH said: Cancer is not necessarily a death sentence Spot on Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggers Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 My friend has had stage 4 breast cancer for over 20 years,she’s been fortunate that the treatments she has received have suited her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 On 05/02/2024 at 21:24, NormanH said: Cancer is not necessarily a death sentence, nor is immediate as several of us are aware. My first diagnosis was in 2006..... I would imagine with the superb and constant medical attention that members of the Royal Family have that whatever it is it will have been spotted early. Quite Norman, but it must be said, the first diagnosis is always a shock which takes time to penetrate to being to talk about it I found. I'm sure he'll be given all the best treatment(s) and maybe this will shake up the NHS to take more rapid action on cancer diagnosis and treatment for everyone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 11 hours ago, Judith said: Quite Norman, but it must be said, the first diagnosis is always a shock which takes time to penetrate to being to talk about it I found. I'm sure he'll be given all the best treatment(s) and maybe this will shake up the NHS to take more rapid action on cancer diagnosis and treatment for everyone. That would be a very good thing, but the fact that those who govern have access to private medicine means that pay only lip service to the NHS. The same applies to private education. Until the day (which I very much doubt will ever come) when those in power have to use the facilities that they provide for the plebs, or in King Charles's case his subjects, there is little incentive for improvement. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 That too I understand NormanH, but the fact the the King has made this all public seems to have had a beneficial on men's take up of being checked, which can only be a good thing. And it is likley that they will inlfuence change also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggers Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I don’t think that apart from quicker surgery which HRH doesn’t appear to be having there’s much private cancer treatment in the UK .The major cancer ce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I would hope so. You have a good point about the effect of the publicity. I had regular checks for both prostate and bowel cancer from the age of 50, and one after another they came up positive well before the symptoms were obvious, which meant that both could be caught early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggers Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 The major cancer centres are linked to NHS facilities is what it was meant to say at the end of my post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Riggers said: The major cancer centres are linked to NHS facilities is what it was meant to say at the end of my post Thanks for that information. That is how it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 More generally I sympathise with ANYONE who has a cancer diagnosis. To quote John Donne "If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less. As well as if a promontory were. Each man's death diminishes me, For I am involved in mankind" .. .and the same can be said of illnesses such as Cancer. Would that the same concern as is being expressed at the State of the King's health, were given to his subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I’m sure the bloke from the most dysfunctional and richest familes in the world will get the very best care. Those from less dysfunctional famalies who have paid their taxes will probably receive less care. The way things are going, Meghan might actually become queen one day. Sorry for the bloke, I don’t wish bad health on anyone. But for crying out loud. Its their business not ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menthe Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 hours ago, NormanH said: More generally I sympathise with ANYONE who has a cancer diagnosis. To quote John Donne "If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less. As well as if a promontory were. Each man's death diminishes me, For I am involved in mankind" .. .and the same can be said of illnesses such as Cancer. Would that the same concern as is being expressed at the State of the King's health, were given to his subjects. Snap! It's only a very short time ago (matter of a few days) that I quoted that poem on another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 hours ago, NormanH said: That would be a very good thing, but the fact that those who govern have access to private medicine means that pay only lip service to the NHS. The same applies to private education. Until the day (which I very much doubt will ever come) when those in power have to use the facilities that they provide for the plebs, or in King Charles's case his subjects, there is little incentive for improvement. My grandson attended a private school, our family couldn't have afforded the fees in any way shape or form, but the lad got a bursary due to his talents. So if you are inclined to work hard the Private education is available to "plebs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 This is a shortened version of an excellent article by an Australian oncologist: For my patients, life continues to unfold in all its enormity and mundanity. Parking is hard to find, specialists even harder. Tracking appointments is a full-time job. Absorbing good news and swallowing bad news – and having the stomach for both at every visit – demands equanimity. Then, beyond the heavy logistics, there is the sheer emotional fatigue of carrying a diagnosis that everyone feels entitled to weigh in on. The initial shock of a cancer diagnosis takes the wind out of everyone’s sails. What will I do now? Did I ignore the signs? What does my future hold? It doesn’t help that the usual narrative about cancer takes two forms: miracles and disasters. Either people defy the statistics or face an abject death. Of course, the truth lies in between: many cancer experiences have been transformed through modern medicine, agile technology and compassionate palliation. But surrounded by well-wishers, my patients describe feeling alone in the moment of discovery; they know that the weightiest implications will be theirs to negotiate in the silences between the noise. Unlike any other illness I can think of, cancer is a communal diagnosis. The flipside of a flood of sympathy is a tsunami of advice. Try this; eat that; go here; look there Ironically, some of society’s sickest patients face the greatest pressure to make the well among us feel better. So, while their public-facing side valorises positivity and “beating” cancer, inside they are scared and unsettled, as anyone would be. Cancer is synonymous with uncertainty; true success involves treating the body and mind. I rue how little we do of the latter. Patients explain that the way to help is to neither demand optimism nor let them drown in pessimism. Like so much in life, our response to those who have cancer requires moderation Whether treated, cured, palliated or somewhere in between, everyone wants human connection. Even the grumpy patients who scold us to “let me be” and especially the proud ones who insist they are “just fine”. There is a distinction between needing space and being alone – no one who is alone is truly fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Thank you, Norman H. All so very true as we both know. Here in France, we are so, so fortunate to be able to use the services of Cancer Support France, helping Anglophones and their families through the cancer maze - and yes is does feel like that at times. I have been so well supported by my local group in the Herault, though I literally live on the edge of the department, with the greatest kindness and thoughtfulness both by having an active listener here at home who is at the end of a phone at almost any time if needed, and also another listener for my language help when having teatment or reviews. Even though I speak adequate French, the language disappears when you are stressed. It has been a life saver for me at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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