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DaveLister last won the day on May 6

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  1. Interesting. I'd never think to do that either. Thanks for the tip. Hope everything is going well with you.
  2. And with that, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury. I rest my case??
  3. I thought I'd have a little look and see how many native tongues are still alive today in Britain. Below is the first line of the Lords prayer translated into most of the tongues of Britain ( I know of a few others but can't find instances of them reciting the prayer online ) Our Father who art in heaven ( English ) Ar n-Athair a tha air nèamh (Scottish Gaelic ) Ár n-Athair, atá ar neamh ( Irish Gaelic ) Ayr ain t'ayns niau, ( Manx ) Ein Tad, yr hwn wyt ( Welsh ) Agan Tas ni, eus y’n nev ( Cornish ) Nouot' Péthe qu'es au ciel ( Jerriais ) Note this is just a list of languages from the British Isles, move to the overseas territories and the list grows proportionately.
  4. I've just realised I am proud to be British ( or should I more correctly say Anglo Norman ). I am proud of the fact that my noble sovereign lord still lives in the castle built by my ancestors. I am proud of the fact that in this day and age I can still stand tall and shout Haro! Haro! Haro! À l'aide, mon Prince, on me fait tort. (Yes I know I should be down on one knee but bear with me I'm swelling with pride here) Oh I feel quite overcome
  5. Gotcha!!!! I must admit I felt a little bad as I did my shopping at lunchtime. I remembered that, as a child, we always used to take the p155 out of the English when they come over on holiday. We would pretend not to understand them when they tried to pronounce placenames and send them off in the wrong direction. Then, when I got older and had a Saturday job we would look for any excuse to wind them up. For example most 'englanders' wouldn't want local currency mixed up with their change as it wasn't legal tender in the UK. If they asked nicely we would exchange it but if they said something like 'oh I don't want any of that foreign money' we would apologise, retrieve the change and replace it completely with local currency. When they complained we would simply say 'but you said you didn't want any foreign money'. When they complained further we'd say "well at least our pound is worth a pound, yours is only worth 50p as 25p belongs to the Arabs for the oil and 25p belongs to the IMF for the loan.? Funnily enough I once had a Scotsman in who looked at the 20p piece I gave him and asked if I could change a 50p into local currency as he wanted to take it home and give it to his son as a gift. We were taught at school about our constitutional relationship with the crown, how the Queen wasn't our queen, how Westminster had no jurisdiction and most of us were proud of the fact that our ancestors helped conquer the country in 1066. Although 'technically' you could argue we were more British than anyone other than the anglo saxons, when the hordes of tourists weren't there, we didn't give the United Kingdom much thought. We had our own laws, our own parliament, our own taxes, and yes our own language. Oh and the main religion is Methodism. Truth is Ken being British encompasses a whole range of people. Don't confuse it with just being English. À tantôt
  6. I don't think you can use culture to define Britishness. Far too broad a church. How many different 'native tongues' are there? How many religions? How many different laws of the land. I guarantee you, despite being British, my culture and traditions are totally different to yours.
  7. Sorry I've never got the point of National pride. I have never served in the armed forces, never been a member of the civil service, never stood for parliment. Why should I claim credit for things I took no active part in? There are shining lights in Britains history along with dark times. Should I spend my life being ashamed of the dark times because of my place of birth? In my life I have been fortunate enough to have taken part in events that have made me proud to be a human being. That'll do.
  8. I'm with EuroTrash, it is what it is. I hardly had a say in the matter. I do, however, like Ken make the distinction between being British and being English ( I'm the former ). Ironically I was called a 'foreigner' more times when I lived in the UK than I've ever been in France.
  9. That might be your interpretation of the phrase 'being frank' but my definition is that it is a precursor to an honest opinion as opposed to a comment meant to inflame or initiate a response. Everyone on this forum has the right to agree or disagree. I was responding to ALBF's somewhat threatening comment "Choose wisely my friend" which implied there may be consequences if I decided to visit another forum. I repeat, we are talking message boards here not picking sides for WW3 ( although it sometimes feels like it ).
  10. Just to confirm the above. We moved to France the middle of November and still had to complete a tax return for the six weeks we were resident prior to the end of the year.
  11. "Choose wisely my friend" Why? We're talking internet forum's FFS. Sure, there will always be a number of posters on any forum I wouldn't want to invite to a dinner party. Life's rich tapestry as they say. If I may be frank, the problem on this forum is that there are now a small number of posters to whom this is all there is. If I wanted to 'sort out the world's problems' I'll do it with my peers. People I know and respect. People who's friendship or mentorship I've appreciated over years. I'm not going to waste my time shouting into the ether at strangers. Sadly it seems to me there are some posters to whom this forum is their last opportunity to be 'the big man'. I feel sorry for them but it's not going to stop me visiting this or any other forum when I fancy a diversion. Life's too short.
  12. ET - thank you, thank you, thank you. I have found myself getting more and more turned off by the perpetual whinging on here but kept coming back as I hadn't found an alternative and hoped, one day, things might improve. Your pizza hint has lead me to another forum which I have just joined. See you on the other side?
  13. I don't think it's you. When I originally wrote to you the software wouldn't allow me to enter any text, just attachments which I now find even I can't open. I've rewritten much of what I wanted to say into our 'conversation' which you may or may not be able to pick up. With the number of gateway errors and timeouts I'm getting on the forum at the moment it wouldn't surprise me if you couldn't pick that up either.
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