alittlebitfrench Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) If you don’t like your job or you don’t like the pay, find another job. Retrain. That is what we all have to do in life. That said, France might starve to death if all the farmers jacked in their job. Discuss. Edited January 29 by alittlebitfrench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLister Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Who's Mysty? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Another Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggers Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Is discussing naming people from other forums allowed on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 No, it isnt, Riggers. I was hoping it would just fade away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alittlebitfrench Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 (edited) 9 hours ago, anotherbanana said: No, it isnt, Riggers. I was hoping it would just fade away. Apologies…..google correct had a bit of a turn. I meant ‘I agree with Chirac and the farmers’. Chirac said ‘always look after the farmers’. This is being discussed on many Brit forums….and it seems that Brits mostly don’t like the actions of the French farmers. But then again before Brexit many Brits used to buy their food from the UK and have it delivered to France. So they have no idea of the country they live in. More concerned about their swimming pool. Anyway, I am with the farmers on this one. Things need to change. Particularly the EU. Otherwise, France will starve to death. I am with you French farmers. Also, just think about those poor SNCF drivers striking because they can’t retire at 50 anymore because trains no longer run on coal ! I think a lot of people think food grows in supermarkets Edited January 30 by alittlebitfrench 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehaut Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 We lived in a farming village in Normandy, our kids went to school with their kids so we got to know them quite well. I support them. I understand why the supermarkets/factories want to pay them as little as possible to boost their own profits selling junk food. The actual "raw" products we buy on a weekly basis are not over priced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajal Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I would suggest that you glean your information from a wider source than some 'Brit Forum'. This is not just a French agricultural issue but a European one, Holland, Germany, Romania, Ukraine,UK and soon to be global. It is basically driven by four issues. The madness of climate change 'green issues', unfavourable subsidies, low return to cost ratio and over population of the world. To not support the farming dilemma is sheer insanity, and who would want to be a farmer anyway? It's a no-brainer. Reports are saying that Paris's food stock is down to 3 days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, cajal said: I would suggest that you glean your information from a wider source than some 'Brit Forum'. This is not just a French agricultural issue but a European one, Holland, Germany, Romania, Ukraine,UK and soon to be global. It is basically driven by four issues. The madness of climate change 'green issues', unfavourable subsidies, low return to cost ratio and over population of the world. To not support the farming dilemma is sheer insanity, and who would want to be a farmer anyway? It's a no-brainer. Reports are saying that Paris's food stock is down to 3 days. I think it is down to the consumer. I happy to pay more for milk, potatoes, tomatoes (for example) as long as the money goes to the producer and not some suit in Paris. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betise Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I am 100% with the farmers, but it is also the fault of the consumer. We (not us, them) expect to pay as little as possible for our food, and given the choice between Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betise Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Damn, due to dodgy finger/key coordination, it sent itself before I had finished. What I meant to say, in full, was ... I am 100% with the farmers, but it is also the fault of the consumer. We (not us, them) expect to pay as little as possible for our food, often prioritising "our" budget to stretch to flashy mobile phones and contracts, TV streaming services, fags, and other things that are in no way necessities. We must agree to pay a fair price for French produce, and so must the supermarket buyers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I believe that the share of a family's budget that goes towards food has diminished considerably over the years.https://www.fortuneo.fr/blog/budget-nourriture-francais-735 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betise Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 It's a bit of a minefield. When I was at school, many moons ago, it was obligatory, for both boys and girls, to do one term of home economics, needlework, woodwork and metalwork. After that term, we could choose our curriculum. Nowadays we have sadly lost a lot of these skills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menthe Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I am often surprised by how much my French friends and neighbours seem to be happy to spend on food. Even those of modest means will splash out on oysters and foie gras on high days and holidays. I have noticed high value items in supermarket baskets and trolleys the contents of which differ substantially from oveladen trolleys in the area of South Wales where I lived. When I go on my walking breaks with French friends, they would spend huge amounts on cheeses, meats, pastries (whatever the local specialities of the region) to take home to family, neighbours and friends. I mean large amounts by my standards....lol! Perhaps over 150€ on a jambon sec or 50€ on a couple of tartes de mytilles. I'd splash out if I was entertaining but, just for us, I'd nearly always find an alternative if something was over-priced by my reckoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Not my usual reading https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/01/30/europe-france-war-on-farmers-is-playing-with-eurosceptic-fi/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noisette Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 9 hours ago, alittlebitfrench said: Apologies…..google correct had a bit of a turn. This is being discussed on many Brit forums and it seems that mostly don’t like the actions of the French farmers. But then again before Brexit many Brits used to buy their food from the UK and have it delivered to France. So they have no idea of the country they live in. More concerned about their swimming pool. I was pleasantly surprised by how many do support the farmers! There are the inevitable selfish whingers, of course, but on the whole the Brit community are much better informed and positive than I would have expected. Perhaps we're all agreed that it's time to call halt on the greed of the big supermarkets? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noisette Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, menthe said: I am often surprised by how much my French friends and neighbours seem to be happy to spend on food. Even those of modest means will splash out on oysters and foie gras on high days and holidays. I have noticed high value items in supermarket baskets and trolleys the contents of which differ substantially from oveladen trolleys in the area of South Wales where I lived. When I go on my walking breaks with French friends, they would spend huge amounts on cheeses, meats, pastries (whatever the local specialities of the region) to take home to family, neighbours and friends. I mean large amounts by my standards....lol! Perhaps over 150€ on a jambon sec or 50€ on a couple of tartes de mytilles. I'd splash out if I was entertaining but, just for us, I'd nearly always find an alternative if something was over-priced by my reckoning. Quite agree, Menthe. We're living on one UK State pension and even when three of us were living on 2 pensions, I never felt 'flush' enough to spend €25 on an apple tart from a patisserie that I could produce myself for €5. In fact, I'm not a very good française at all, as the aim when moving here was to be as self-sufficient as possible. Not from meanness but just the pleasure of having land and being able to produce our own food. The raising, conserving, growing etc. goes down much better with 'my' French farming family than it appears to do with the townie and Parisien friends but then they can't even begin to imagine living on what we do 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 59 minutes ago, Noisette said: I was pleasantly surprised by how many do support the farmers! There are the inevitable selfish whingers, of course, but on the whole the Brit community are much better informed and positive than I would have expected. Perhaps we're all agreed that it's time to call halt on the greed of the big supermarkets? Agreed. Especially one that most people here have shopped in and own many renowned retail outlets in France. But its headquarters are not in France….I guess for tax reasons. Guess who it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Leclerc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 12 hours ago, anotherbanana said: Leclerc? No…no I have to correct myself because their headquarters are in France….but I think the family lives in Belgium. But then again, I have idea. The shop brands they own. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_Familiale_Mulliez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Motorways from Brussels south blocked and others, bales burning, so had to detour though the countryside. The only road block I saw had pulled back for lunch! But I seriously thought that the lined up tractors were in front of an agency as they were all seemed brand new, which at €100000 each may explain their poverty. Nothing apparently in the NordPas de Calais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLister Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Rows of empty shelves in the supermarket at lunchtime and no parcel delivery. Seems the blockades in Nîmes and Montpelier are having an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbert Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, anotherbanana said: Motorways from Brussels south blocked and others, bales burning, so had to detour though the countryside. The only road block I saw had pulled back for lunch! But I seriously thought that the lined up tractors were in front of an agency as they were all seemed brand new, which at €100000 each may explain their poverty. Nothing apparently in the NordPas de Calais. I believe they can access low to zero rate finance. Although it still needs repaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betise Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 No bananas to be had at our U this afternoon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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