babcock Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Or English as she is spokeI know language is a living, changing thing but the above make me cringe.TV reporters are among the worst for mangling the English language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 [quote user="babcock"] Or English as she is spokeI know language is a living, changing thing but the above make me cringe.TV reporters are among the worst for mangling the English language.[/quote]What makes me cringe in the last few years is the regular use of 'ink' instead of 'ing' and sometimes the other way around.Thing and think seem to be currently interchangeable. Example: It is not some 'think' I like.Some TV presenters seem to think it is posher. We are now producink a new...Makes me angggrrryyyyyy.....I do hope you haven't previously noticed this because now you will become infuriated when you hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerdesal Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Is it very difficult to learn the difference between 'loose' and 'lose' ?Reporters and newspaper letter writers (and posters on 'some' forums) seem to have a blind spot where these words are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegie Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 or "lie" and "lay"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nectarine Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 ooooh this is giving me a chance to let off steam. "Could of" and "would of" are bad enough when spoken, but I have seen it written as such on subtitles .... on the BBC!!!!I also hate the use of "like" as a substitute for "said". As in "well she was, like, are we going out and I was, like, yes so he was, like, what time ...". Etc., etc.Drives me potty!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Âme Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I agree, with the other pedants. Who let loose loose? But how to advise the perpetrators? Would advice be welcomed?Inking. Thanks for that, Dog. Really. Chiz (formerly, cheers.) [+o(] [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegie Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 [quote user="Âme"]Would advice be welcomed?[/quote]I think you would have to have a licence for that. Unless you could effect it surreptitiously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddy Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I don't think the BBC cares any more. I watched a programme earlier in the week about a family of thieves somewhere in the West Country. The narrator referred to 'burgulries' throughout. Hoddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkapuss Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I tell ya your not wrong there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkkent Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The mangled subtitles in news programmes are due to the use of voice recognition software to provide instant (huh!) written versions of spoken content.As for linguistic gripes, my guns are focused on supermarket bosses who do not know the difference between "fewer than" and "less than" ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkapuss Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 When did the letter H, "aitch" become haitch, and people who pacifically ask for something, must be in the sea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 [quote user="powerdesal"]Is it very difficult to learn the difference between 'loose' and 'lose' ?Reporters and newspaper letter writers (and posters on 'some' forums) seem to have a blind spot where these words are concerned.[/quote]Guilty as charged - I have a real problem with this and stare at it for hours trying to decide if I've written it correctly or not (mind you I do that a lot with my spelling which is cr*p and no, I don't mind in the least if people give me tips as to how to do it better, as long as they're not patronising or rude in the process.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 [quote user="sparkapuss"]When did the letter H, "aitch" become haitch?[/quote]Being of a Northern persuasion, I can tell you that there are certain areas where this has been prevalent for a long time. Indeed I recall an incident from my schooldays where a fellow pupil, as part of something we were doing for a school assembly, had to sweep majestically onto the stage and declaim "Open up Hell Gates!" - just this ONE line. After a surfeit of rehearsals, she was finally getting it more-or-less correct. Come the day, reversion to type occurred .... "HOPEN HUP ELL GATES!"You had to be there, I suppose ...RegardsPickles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Cooperlola says:Guilty as charged - I have a real problem with this and stare at it for hours trying to decide if I've written it correctly or not (mind you I do that a lot with my spelling which is cr*p and no, I don't mind in the least if people give me tips as to how to do it better, as long as they're not patronising or rude in the process.Coops, listen carefully; I shall say this onnly once.Lose: you misplace itLoose: it's too big for you and it doesn't fitHope that helps?[:D]How's the walking? Are you losing it or are your shoes too loose? See, that's the difference![:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 [quote user="nectarine"]"Could of" and "would of" are bad enough when spoken, but I have seen it written as such on subtitles .... on the BBC!!!![/quote]Most, if not all live-programs subtitles are produced by speech synthesis software, not typed by an individual listening to a soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mme poivre Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The thing that drives me really mad is when the kids at school all write 'u' instead of you because that is what they use all the time on their phones and computers. Arggggg!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 [quote user="cooperlola"][quote user="powerdesal"]Is it very difficult to learn the difference between 'loose' and 'lose' ?Reporters and newspaper letter writers (and posters on 'some' forums) seem to have a blind spot where these words are concerned.[/quote]Guilty as charged - I have a real problem with this and stare at it for hours trying to decide if I've written it correctly or not (mind you I do that a lot with my spelling which is cr*p and no, I don't mind in the least if people give me tips as to how to do it better, as long as they're not patronising or rude in the process.)[/quote]Loose is bigger (looser) than lose. Lose is smaller, as it has lost an o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Âme Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 When you lose weight, your trousers become loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 And when your stools are loose, you lose weight!Sorry, didn't mean to lower the tone........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 [quote user="Mme poivre"]The thing that drives me really mad is when the kids at school all write 'u' instead of you because that is what they use all the time on their phones and computers. Arggggg!!![/quote] ... and with texting vowels may hardly be seen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I am ashammed as somwon that did lots of prood readink put I am veri lazi an canot bee boverd to git mi Orfers an Prinnters Dickshunery out if i ham nut beeing payed.I kepe findink literawl zin bookz. Fing iz az lorng az pepul unnerstan u iz eet necesari?Eye now itz nut gud butt eet aynt thee enn ov thee wurld - sumtimes itz beta to ignorr the nasi spillin polis.A nuvver fink iz tipograffi thit iz importan two ann allso whin peepul dunna leeve spacz inbtween pawagwaphs an know lit up btwin centences fings cun bee dificul two reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patf Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 [quote user="Pickles"][quote user="sparkapuss"]When did the letter H, "aitch" become haitch?[/quote]Being of a Northern persuasion, I can tell you that there are certain areas where this has been prevalent for a long time. Indeed I recall an incident from my schooldays where a fellow pupil, as part of something we were doing for a school assembly, had to sweep majestically onto the stage and declaim "Open up Hell Gates!" - just this ONE line. After a surfeit of rehearsals, she was finally getting it more-or-less correct. Come the day, reversion to type occurred .... "HOPEN HUP ELL GATES!"You had to be there, I suppose ...[/quote]Pickles - do you come from "'ull, 'ell or 'uddersfield"? I used to teach remedial readers in Hull and gave up on the haitch, and joined them.Re "like" - this has long been a part of the geordie lingo, eg " d'ye fancy 'im like?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 [quote user="Patf"][quote user="Pickles"][quote user="sparkapuss"]When did the letter H, "aitch" become haitch?[/quote]Being of a Northern persuasion, I can tell you that there are certain areas where this has been prevalent for a long time. Indeed I recall an incident from my schooldays where a fellow pupil, as part of something we were doing for a school assembly, had to sweep majestically onto the stage and declaim "Open up Hell Gates!" - just this ONE line. After a surfeit of rehearsals, she was finally getting it more-or-less correct. Come the day, reversion to type occurred .... "HOPEN HUP ELL GATES!"You had to be there, I suppose ... [/quote]Pickles - do you come from "'ull, 'ell or 'uddersfield"? I used to teach remedial readers in Hull and gave up on the haitch, and joined them.Re "like" - this has long been a part of the geordie lingo, eg " d'ye fancy 'im like?"[/quote]This story is from t'other side o't'Pennines ...RegardsPickles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkapuss Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 You're not Wilfred Picles are u, give im the money Mabel fame, if you're under 60 you won't remember im Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babcock Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 [quote user="cooperlola"][quote user="powerdesal"]Is it very difficult to learn the difference between 'loose' and 'lose' ?Reporters and newspaper letter writers (and posters on 'some' forums) seem to have a blind spot where these words are concerned.[/quote]Guilty as charged - I have a real problem with this and stare at it for hours trying to decide if I've written it correctly or not (mind you I do that a lot with my spelling which is cr*p and no, I don't mind in the least if people give me tips as to how to do it better, as long as they're not patronising or rude in the process.)[/quote]duplicated answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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