just john Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 The problem is with those who only see black and white, you see vulgar, often obese, ugly, and to judge by their surroundings insulated from everyday life in France, if it needs explaining, then that is the jokeI see Artisans, escapee's, eccentrics, waiters, children, dogs, some bat for the other side, and some are colourful ladies, Gawdellpus ~~WB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 No. You read the captions, which no good photograph needs.I read the photographs and see the sadness of their vain and lost lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Of course you're right Norm, Life is only as you see it . . . . . . . . . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I am happy to see that you have learned something about perception.Perhaps you can pass the message on to these exhibitionist 'peeps' that they just ain't funny.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardian Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Blimey, 4 pages in 4 hrs !!! Everyone's out to play tonight.Don't know what all the fuss is about - we're saturated with folk like that around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Well I know that there is a flaky English chap near Sommières who is the spitting image of some of the crusties in the photos, and has an IQ to match despite struggling to run a so -called site peddling half-baked self-interested untruths...But he is the only real ugly ( mentally rather then physically) that I have suffered in the Languedoc.Perhaps on the whole we had a better class of immigrant before the catastrophic 2000s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Bed time, Norman. And tomorrow, get some new glasses and look round you. We are all the same, just Giles cartoon characters[6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardian Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I've only 'skimmed' these pictures, but they're strangely compulsive. I know that I'm going to go back & look at them all, one-by-one. The obvious question is .................... who is going to own up to being one of the subjects??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Why, NORMAN, of course!!![6] But which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 It's interesting to see the interiors, but to me the photos seem dead, they have no soul. You keep going on to find one that makes you feel something, but they're all the same.Something about their posed subjects reminds me of a series Yann Arthus Bertrand did, but without anything vulgar.Yann Arthus Bertrand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedon Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 [quote user="Christine Animal"] You keep going on to find one that makes you feel something, but they're all the same.[/quote]Exactly what I thought Mrs A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Norman said "These are images of vulgar, often obese, ugly, and to judge by their surroundings insulated from everyday life in France."Hey lighten up Norman [:D]I didnt really see the images, its true the photos that Cooperlola posted are far better, for me I read a little bit about some very interesting, which makes for me, beautiful people [:D]I dont become envious or begrudge the wealth of others and fail to see why anyone can consider them to be vulgar.I suppose in one way they are very different from everyday life in France, many of them have had several varied and intersting jobs during their lives and have lived/worked in other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I know a couple of the people in the photographs and so it was a bit of a shock to see them in compromising positions. How did the photographer get some of them to pose like that? He must have spent a lot of time with them to gain their confidence. As I flicked through them, I was thinking whether I would have agreed to be photographed in such a way.I like smiling all the time so I noticed that none of them were smiling - maybe that is why one feels uncomfortable looking at them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 The phrase 'photographic masturbation' came to mind. But I don't expect WB to understand. Norman might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluestick Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote user="Will"]The phrase 'photographic masturbation' came to mind. But I don't expect WB to understand. Norman might.[/quote][:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I am sure I'm not alone (even on this thread) in seeing these images as designed to be against the norm, (perhaps even dare I suggest like the subjects) of course there are images out there with smiles and everything just so, including minions to millionaires, probably in a book in M&S, what price something else; as Jon Snow said 'Hitler lost'.[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote user="Cathy"]I know a couple of the people in the photographs and so it was a bit of a shock to see them in compromising positions. How did the photographer get some of them to pose like that? He must have spent a lot of time with them to gain their confidence. As I flicked through them, I was thinking whether I would have agreed to be photographed in such a way.I like smiling all the time so I noticed that none of them were smiling - maybe that is why one feels uncomfortable looking at them?[/quote]Well Heigh-Ho then!A regular bean feast for expatties in the Lyon Area at ParisPhoto during November.[:)]Série Another Country - Les britanniques en France, 2010http://www.parisphoto.fr/artiste.html?ar=787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluestick Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Well, we are all different, John, that's for sure.However for me, it comes down to a simple analogy: would I prefer to gaze on:(i) The Venus De Milo?(ii) Or Tracy Emin's unmade bed (Replete with stains)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Why O why did they have to use the photo of the bint on the donkey to publicise the exposition Les Brittaniques in France? are we not misunderstood enough already?Am I the only one that thinks the donkey is way beyond its PTAC and/or should have une carte grise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluestick Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Now that's naughty, JRC![:D]But so true![:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote user="Chancer"]Why O why did they have to use the photo of the bint on the donkey to publicise the exposition Les Brittaniques in France? are we not misunderstood enough already?[/quote]Chancer... that's the best giggle I've had for a couple of days... thank you! [:D] [kiss] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote user="Gluestick"] would I prefer to gaze on: (i) The Venus De Milo? (ii) Or Tracy Emin's unmade bed (Replete with stains)? [/quote]I'm just as happy to see all perspectives, Aubrey Beardsley to Francisco Zurbaran I'm not a great lover of Tate modern, but it's worth a look, personally I'd rather stand on a bridge in Venice or Giverney, that's not to say I wouldn't be just as happy if Sweet were to publish her project[quote user="sweet 17"] I could have taken photos of all the different types of sewage works and, who knows, a sanitary engineer might have asked me for an autographed copy! [/quote][quote user="Chancer"] Why O why did they have to use the photo of the bint on the donkey to publicise the exposition Les Brittaniques in France? [/quote]It must be one of the most loaded pics against the norm don't you think? [:)]as for her motive perhaps in one of those devil may care moods she said you can kiss my a55 and the only that way my a55 would look good would be if I sat on it![:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 In truth it was my favorite photo, I bet she is a real interesting and fun lady, attractive as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJT Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 There is a current thread on TF about this. I think these people are very brave. I think the uneasy feeling we have when viewing them is intentional. They are I presume told how to pose and the surroundings were well thought out. I could be wrong but to me they are meant to show very little personality and are posed like an object, piece of meat or bowl of fruit for example but in a bizarre pose. The photo almost appears to shock when you read the description of which appears in many cases quite ordinary.I can only imagine if it were me and my very ordinary circumstances and life was captioned below such a bizarre irrelevant benign photo in my own surroundings (building rubble!). [:)] Sadly one that would be relevant and show my personality at the moment may be too disturbing for the general public! [Www] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh4 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote user="WJT"] when you read the description of which appears in many cases quite ordinary.[/quote] I am not so sure that I would consider them to be "ordinary" reading the descriptions - or at least not representative. "came from Abu Dhabi""was born in South Africa ""is half Dutch ""she was born in Canada and grew up between Kingston, Ontario and Germany"That's just from the first 10 pictures. Then throw in the number of artists. They seem a bit like a bunch of international multi-cultural misfits that have landed up in France. And while this might well fit me as a description, it does not fit any of the other immigrants that I know in our area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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