Frenchie Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Thanks Christine for Envoyé Spécial, I usually never miss it, but I had this time ! [kiss] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote user="pachapapa"]And the abuses by female french politicians!http://www.rue89.com/2011/05/30/elle-plaisante-sur-morano-et-est-licenciee-pour-faute-grave-206765[/quote]On envoyé spécial the journalist said that we had to understand that male french politicans were inappropriate, now we find that a female is too. Now, just how inappropriate in the past does any of them think that they will have been with Margaret , or now with Angela? They wouldn't! So why do they in France? It is simple, people get away with behaviour because they are not told NON! French women don't mind? Too frightened to say anything? I don't really care about the reasons? Need to get a grip and get this sorted NOW! Ladies, (a general address and to absolutely no one in particular, other than les françaises), frankly now don't blame the men as much as yourselves. Being treated respectfully doesn't make a woman less needed, wanted, or desirable. The 'game' is still on, just different rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiling a frog Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 They are coming out the woodwork nowhttp://www.planetecampus.com/actu/32044-patrick-balkany-un-harceleur-de-plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 So, you wanna stuff a political opponent, probably in your party, well, then, accuse him or her of abuse or harrassment. Or both. Go on, it's the game of the summer. Ooops, the word 'game' might be a bit inappropriate. And 'gamey meat' comes to mind. Naaaaaah.Let's get the sweet balmy days of the long knives over and sort the wheat from the chaff and get the real abusers and rapists sorted, then start changing attitudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Yes, what about all these monsters let out to attack again and again and to kill, those poor joggers for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote user="woolybanana"]So, you wanna stuff a political opponent, probably in your party, well, then, accuse him or her of abuse or harrassment. Or both. Go on, it's the game of the summer. Ooops, the word 'game' might be a bit inappropriate. And 'gamey meat' comes to mind. Naaaaaah.Let's get the sweet balmy days of the long knives over and sort the wheat from the chaff and get the real abusers and rapists sorted, then start changing attitudes.[/quote] But how many of them are they. The female journalist didn't say, 'the odd one', she said male politicians. I'm sure that les femmes are to everyone of them's taste though. Sadly it sounds like most of them could be 'stuffed' and quite easily. Chicken and egg here, what has to come first, the start of a change of attitudes OR knives drawn OR both. It is going to be a mess whichever way it happens. And whatever happens there will have been no point in any of it at all if attitudes do not subsequently change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote user="Christine Animal"]Yes, what about all these monsters let out to attack again and again and to kill, those poor joggers for example. [/quote]YES, that is a big issue, needs to change ! You can't attack someone, get out of jail after a few years, no treatment, .. too many do it again !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Strauss-Kahn affair prompts backlash against French sexism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Good article, profiling DSK's wife Anne Sinclair: Why Anne Sinclair is standing by Dominique Strauss-Kahn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 If that is love?Well what is love? I can imagine defending my kids to the n'th degree, but I don't know about this. When I was a teenager I remember well that explosion of love, passion and infatuation for someone. Then I grew up. I still fell in love and I daresay I could again, but so blindly, and without the hormonal surges of youth, nah. This sounds dilusional to me, but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Maybe she's stuck her neck out so far, so publicly, in his defence through the years and now through the worse accusations, that she will not admit she may have been wrong...?It's one thing to say you don't mind if your husband is a philanderer, but by some accounts, she's in denial about most of his dalliances, even describing his affair with his IMF subordinate as a one-night-stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Does it matter to you why she sticks by him? After judging him, it seems it is now her turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Not judging, just trying to understand why someone would behave in a way which is so different to how I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Even Ratko Mladic 'Butcher of Bosnia', who is accused of orchestrating the murders of 100,000 people, appeared today unhandcuffed . . . http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/serbia/8554907/Ratko-Mladic-in-court-the-whole-world-knows-who-I-am.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote user="Clair"]Not judging, just trying to understand why someone would behave in a way which is so different to how I would.[/quote]We are all different Clair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote user="just john "]Even Ratko Mladic 'Butcher of Bosnia', who is accused of orchestrating the murders of 100,000 people, appeared today unhandcuffed . . . http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/serbia/8554907/Ratko-Mladic-in-court-the-whole-world-knows-who-I-am.html[/quote]Different countries - Different procedures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote user="Christine Animal"]We are all different Clair. [/quote]Thank goodness for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote user="Clair"]Maybe she's stuck her neck out so far, so publicly, in his defence through the years and now through the worse accusations, that she will not admit she may have been wrong...?It's one thing to say you don't mind if your husband is a philanderer, but by some accounts, she's in denial about most of his dalliances, even describing his affair with his IMF subordinate as a one-night-stand.[/quote]I don't suppose it's possible to understand another person's attitudes and motivations. Remember the wives of those mass murderers, Fred West and Dr Shipman? If memory serves me right, both those wives "stood by their men" and were, to all appearances, in total denial of what their husbands had done.They were prepared to take public villification for the sake of their murderer husbands. It was alledged that both knew what their men were up to but did nothing about stopping their activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Surely you're not comparing Anne Sinclair with that. [6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Fred West's wife was convicted of 10 murders and is currently a guest of Her Majesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote user="Christine Animal"]Surely you're not comparing Anne Sinclair with that. [6] [/quote]No, Christine, what I meant was that Anne Sinclair had a lot less to "forgive" than those two other women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Primrose Shipman didn't accept that her husband was guilty : http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jan/16/gender.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 As I said earlier, RH, we can never know another person's attitude and motivation. Thanks for posting the article as I'd only thought of those women when I was answering Clair's post and the details of those stories were hazy in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 My comments were about how much the article said she was 'in love' 'besotted' with DSK. We are all different, but to me the article spoke of a 'love' that was 'hyper'. I didn't think it sounded very 'stable' or healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 "Pour un ami du couple, Anne Sinclair ne connaissait «que 40% de ce que faisait DSK»." (A friend of the couple says Anne Sinclair knew "only 40% of what DSK was up to".)Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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