DSK, can we believe this?

[cooperlola]

[quote user="pachapapa"]No attempt at humour at all.[/quote]Then perhaps you might have left out the big smiley face, Pacha?  Just for the sake of clarity, you understand.

[pachapapa]

[quote user="idun"]Without going through all these threads again, does anyone know the time frame for all this happening? If I knew I cannot remember.[/quote]

Link to alleged events in the suite with floor plan, just click on numbers.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/05/22/nyregion/hotel-diagram.html?ref=nyregion

[pachapapa]

[quote user="cooperlola"][quote user="pachapapa"]No attempt at humour at all.[/quote]Then perhaps you might have left out the big smiley face, Pacha?  Just for the sake of clarity, you understand.[/quote]

Smiley removed.[;-)]

[Frenchie]

[quote user="pachapapa"]

[quote user="cooperlola"][quote user="pachapapa"]No attempt at humour at all.[/quote]Then perhaps you might have left out the big smiley face, Pacha?  Just for the sake of clarity, you understand.[/quote]

Smiley removed.[;-)]

[/quote]

Too easy.

[5-element]

To stay on track: Is the New York Post the equivalent of the British Daily Mail? (this is in French, I have limited time and couldn't find the original NYP "article"). Obviously, to take with a large pinch of salt since it is a tabloid.

http://www.courrierinternational.com/article/2011/05/24/le-new-york-post-enfonce-dsk

Basically, it says that the alleged victim will end up a very rich woman (7 figures are mentioned), whichever way the court case goes.

[cooperlola]

[quote user="5-element"]

To stay on track: Is the New York Post the equivalent of the British Daily Mail? (this is in French, I have limited time and couldn't find the original NYP "article"). Obviously, to take with a large pinch of salt since it is a tabloid.

http://www.courrierinternational.com/article/2011/05/24/le-new-york-post-enfonce-dsk

Basically, it says that the alleged victim will end up a very rich woman (7 figures are mentioned), whichever way the court case goes.

[/quote]

Here you are:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/maid_offer_ya_can_refuse_joKw8dxbw6AkYOmJsEZiaN

I'll leave Lori or a fellow American to explain the NYP to you as they are  probably more knowlegeable than I - although the article probably tells you most of what you want to know.   I must say that the New York Times is rather more my style.

 

EDIT : Here's a bit more of the NYP's style for you :

http://www.businessinsider.com/dominique-strauss-kahn-new-york-post-cover-2011-5

[pachapapa]

Link to NYT account on ADN.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/24/nyregion/evidence-said-to-tie-imf-chief-to-housekeeper.html?_r=1&hp

Note the MultiMedia tag on left previously URLed above.

[Christine Animal]

New York police deny report on Strauss-Kahn DNA

 

[Clair]

Not from a tabloid... [:)]

http://www.economist.com/node/18713896

[cooperlola]

Neither is this.  An interesting analysis of the sexual-political issues rather than the case itself from another (male dominated) European society's perspective.

http://www.peacexpeace.org/2011/05/on-talking-about-sexual-assault-and-dominique-strauss-kahn/

[Frenchie]

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/actualite/societe/20110524.OBS3815/tests-adn-dans-l-affaire-dsk-une-experte-appelle-a-la-prudence.html

From Le Nouvel Observateur, French newspaper.

Christine, maybe you will know how I can translate articles into English ? ( a reliable software?)

[Russethouse]

Frenchie, Can you just install the Google toolbar ? You can set up your options to do it automatically.

[Frederick]

 

The maid ....

[idun]

So all this happened in about half an hour.

Thankyou for the links.

 

Re the Nouvel Obs, well I suppose that we all knew that even if her saliva and his sperm  are found together it would only prove that fellatio had occured. As opposed to initial denial that anything had happened at all?  Is the man getting blow jobs so frequently that he cannot remember from whom or where?

Whatever, the circumstances and the argument consensual or attempted rape will be heard in court.

 

[idun]

[quote user="Frederick"]

 

The maid ....

[/quote]

 

No reason why she shouldn't be an attractive woman is there? Whoever this lady is, she is attractive.

[MrCanary]

Yes Deb, sorry you are right, the bickering does spoil what has been a very good thread...

Now how did it start?

[pachapapa]

[quote user="idun"][quote user="Frederick"]

 

The maid ....

[/quote]

 

No reason why she shouldn't be an attractive woman is there? Whoever this lady is, she is attractive.

[/quote]

Seems genuine.

http://www.talkafrique.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Nafissatou-Diallo-maid-assaulted-by-IMF-Chief-Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-300x184.jpg

http://www.talkafrique.com/issues/nafissatou-diallo-guinea-woman-sexually-assaulted-by-imf-chief-dominique-strauss-kahn

[Christine Animal]

Sorry, it's in French.

http://www.bfmtv.com/video-infos-actualite/detail/dsk-la-strategie-de-la-defense-se-profile-1296929/

 

[pachapapa]

[quote user="Christine Animal"]

Sorry, it's in French.

http://www.bfmtv.com/video-infos-actualite/detail/dsk-la-strategie-de-la-defense-se-profile-1296929/

 

[/quote]

Sounds like another authorative Juppé moment.[;-)]

[Gardener]

So from not having had sex with her at all, it changes to consensual sex, now to the maid orchestrating it to blackmail him. As it appears he was out of the hotel within 30 mins of the end of the alleged assault, when did the alleged blackmail commence?

[pachapapa]

Perhaps not such plain sailing for the defense as Arlette Chabot's buddy would suggest.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-25/strauss-kahn-evidence-supporting-forcible-sex-seen-as-key-defense-obstacle.html

 

[Rabbie]

[quote user="Gardener"]So from not having had sex with her at all, it changes to consensual sex, now to the maid orchestrating it to blackmail him. As it appears he was out of the hotel within 30 mins of the end of the alleged assault, when did the alleged blackmail commence?[/quote]Sounds a bit like the defence offered by someone accused of borrowing and damaging a cart.

1. I never took it

2. It was damaged when I took it.

3.  It was undamaged when I put it back

 

[Clair]

In today's Times, there's an article describing how DSK's defence team are focusing on the woman's past in order to undermine her testimony. Nothing new or unexpected there.

A NY firm of intelligence research has flown some operatives to Guinea to look inot her background before her arrival in the US.

There is concern that her relatives may feel intimidated by the wealth and tactics of the defence team.

There is also a mention of DSK having been found by French police with a prostitute in a car in a well-known area of Paris in 2006.

Sarkozy was Interior Minister at the time and was made aware of the situation.

Allegedly.

EDIT: Nicolas Sarkozy's cache of sleaze on rivals including Dominique Strauss-Kahn

In the Bllomberg article above, it says

"Brafman [one the of defence team] told French television’s TF1 on May 22 that, based

on the evidence he had seen, his client would be acquitted at a

fair trial." (my emphasis)

Is he preparing the ground for claims of an unfair trial?

[Clair]

A crack in the dam?

Criminal complaint filed against French politician

More details HERE.

[cooperlola]

It's been said already on this thread, I know, but whatever the outcome of the DSK case, if its legacy is to empower women to come out against abuses of this sort then some real and positive good will have come out of this sorry affair.