Dog Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 [quote user="Russethouse"]Unless CJR can prove he is the author, Users must not post messages which: Are insulting, abusive, racist, sexist, or derogatory in any way to others, whether they are individuals or companies, users of the Forum or not. This includes material sent via personal e-mails through this forum. Threaten, intimidate, victimise or harass others. Make libellous comments about individuals or companies, including Living France magazine and FRANCE magazine. Contain explicit language or vulgarities (whether written in French, English or any other language) Impersonate or represent any person or entity in an attempt to deceive, harass or otherwise mislead another member. Incite illegal activity Infringe intellectual property rights Transmit any material that you don't have the right to transmit under law (such as copyright or trade secrets) Link to and/or references content not allowed under these guidelines. Use the service in a manner deemed inappropriate by Archant Impede or disrupt the flow of the discussions in the Forum[/quote]So how can giving a link break copyright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Crumbs at least 5 or 6 of those are breached daily on this board.Seems like most laws it's in the eye of the beholder.Bit like the head of firefighters in UK this week that wasn't taken to court for paedophile activity because it wasn't in the public interest. I think the public may prefer to decide for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 So, where can I buy a golliwog now, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 [quote user="Dog"][quote user="Russethouse"] Unless CJR can prove he is the author, Users must not post messages which: Are insulting, abusive, racist, sexist, or derogatory in any way to others, whether they are individuals or companies, users of the Forum or not. This includes material sent via personal e-mails through this forum. Threaten, intimidate, victimise or harass others. Make libellous comments about individuals or companies, including Living France magazine and FRANCE magazine. Contain explicit language or vulgarities (whether written in French, English or any other language) Impersonate or represent any person or entity in an attempt to deceive, harass or otherwise mislead another member. Incite illegal activity Infringe intellectual property rights Transmit any material that you don't have the right to transmit under law (such as copyright or trade secrets) Link to and/or references content not allowed under these guidelines. Use the service in a manner deemed inappropriate by Archant Impede or disrupt the flow of the discussions in the Forum[/quote]So how can giving a link break copyright?[/quote]Do keep up [;-)] the whole article was quoted and has now been deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Wooly ....you can buy your gollywog in Les Sables-D'Olonne.....there is a toy shop there that sells them ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJR Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20081109_White_guilt__Done__over__history.htmlLink to White Guilt Article. Also email address of Tom Adkins:E-mail Tom Adkins at [email protected].I am fairly confident Tom Adkins would gladly give consent on publication of his article which appeared in the Philly Inquirer in USAWhy can conservative views not be promoted ? Behaving like the thought police because something not to your liking ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 CJR, your link doesn't work...Russethouse has already answered the point raised in your last remarkDanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 there you go - fixed it for you!http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20081109_White_guilt__Done__over__history.htmlthe thought police thought of youDanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Dordogne Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Nice to see Tom Atkins has such a balanced view of the world, racism dressed up as intellectual debate.CJR, do you have any links with France or are you just in here to support extreme right-wing politics, which Tom Atkins is famous for through ConservativeCommon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJR Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Thanks. Mozilla Firefox was picking up http:// twice so I removed the http:// since most browsers will find the page automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJR Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I own a fully paid for house in France and have done for 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Dordogne Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Fully paid for eh? As opposed to .................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I have watched the Youtube thing and read the article given and really its all a load of infantile tosh.Those Americans I have met prior to the presidential elections have come from typical middle class families. Not only would they not vote for Obama but they hated him. The reason why, which I have also heard on TV and read elsewhere, is because they fear he will turn America in to a socialist state with his health system, educational and other reforms to help the poor and there are a lot of them in the US of all colours and religions including white.Why don't they like him for this, well somebody has to pay and they fear its them with higher tax's etc. The fact he is also black, or more to the point coloured and has a name that sounds Muslim is picked on because it helps, in their view, to put the cream on their argument.As for American domestic terrorists and all the hype about that well lets not forget where most of the money came from that funded the IRA which killed hundreds of innocent members of the public both in NI and mainland UK. What happened to some of their leaders, they are now elected members of the NI parliament.Anyway what on earth has all this got to do with Carol Thatcher and her contract not being renewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastines Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 Perhaps the word" Golly" will now have a new meaning as does the word" Gay".Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Dordogne Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 True Quinllan and who provided the Afghanis with weapons to fight the Russians, promoted revolution/military overthrow of democratically elected governments in various parts of the world?But then Tom thing would had supported all those activities, illegal and immoral tho they may be, because the action was against the ungodly lefty pinkos so beloved of McCarthy, Hoover and the other hypocrites that used to run the USA. And from what I've read, he also supports the torture of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay - but then they're Godless Muslims aren't they.And what has this to do with C Thatcher or even with France? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote user="Gastines"]Perhaps the word" Golly" will now have a new meaning as does the word" Gay".[/quote]By coincidence, I was reading an article this morning about a book which has just been written about Bernard Kouchner, founder of Médecins Sans Frontières and Médecins du Monde, currently Foreign Affairs Minister in Sarkozy's gvmt.The book is widely seen as a hatchet-job and what struck me was the comment that the use of the French word "cosmopolitain" in a certain context is understood to have anti-semitic connotations.(Charles Bremner's Times blog - Jean-Michel Aphatie's blog (in google English here)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odile Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Quillan you are absolutely right - this thread was placed in the wrong place from the start and should have been moved to 'other topics'. And it was highjacked half way through for the wrong reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Carol Thatcher golliwog row: Presenters who kept their jobs at the BBC despite controversy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedon Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote user="Frederick"]Wooly ....you can buy your gollywog in Les Sables-D'Olonne.....there is a toy shop there that sells them ![/quote]That's fine provided it is displayed in a prominent position, you can then simply point to it and in a very loud brit voice say, "I will have one of those." But what if you have to ask for it by name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote user="Weedon"][quote user="Frederick"]Wooly ....you can buy your gollywog in Les Sables-D'Olonne.....there is a toy shop there that sells them ![/quote]That's fine provided it is displayed in a prominent position, you can then simply point to it and in a very loud brit voice say, "I will have one of those." But what if you have to ask for it by name? [/quote]Gwalligog pleez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote user="Russethouse"][quote user="Dog"][quote user="Russethouse"] Unless CJR can prove he is the author, Users must not post messages which: Are insulting, abusive, racist, sexist, or derogatory in any way to others, whether they are individuals or companies, users of the Forum or not. This includes material sent via personal e-mails through this forum. Threaten, intimidate, victimise or harass others. Make libellous comments about individuals or companies, including Living France magazine and FRANCE magazine. Contain explicit language or vulgarities (whether written in French, English or any other language) Impersonate or represent any person or entity in an attempt to deceive, harass or otherwise mislead another member. Incite illegal activity Infringe intellectual property rights Transmit any material that you don't have the right to transmit under law (such as copyright or trade secrets) Link to and/or references content not allowed under these guidelines. Use the service in a manner deemed inappropriate by Archant Impede or disrupt the flow of the discussions in the Forum[/quote]So how can giving a link break copyright?[/quote]Do keep up [;-)] the whole article was quoted and has now been deleted[/quote] OOer Mrs get you... I didn't see the complete article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerdesal Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote user="Tony F Dordogne"]Nice to see Tom Atkins has such a balanced view of the world, racism dressed up as intellectual debate.[/quote]I have just read the article referred to and, whilst it has zero relevance to France or Ms Thatcher, I cant see the reason for nasty comments about it. The writing style was unusual to me but possibly not to Americans but the content, as I understood it, was that, by electing a non-white President, the people of the USA had shown that the stigma of 'institutionalised' overt racism was not now deserved.I obviously understood in a different way to some here as I did not consider the article racist in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastines Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 I nearly weakened and started a new topic on Jeremy Clarckson and his tirade on G.B.PM." The one eyed Scottish idiot" but I did actually think the one eyed bit was a bit insulting.He should get the sack ----and Jeremy.Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerdesal Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 My phrase .......the stigma of 'institutionalised' overt racism was not now deserved....... does NOT say that racism no longer exists in America, or that any black / brown / off-white person should ever dare to suggest it is so. The comment ....." praying in a racist church for 20 years, and actively working with America-hating domestic terrorists"..... may or may not have some truth to it, I don't know (or care), do you? I have absolutely no intention of researching the ins and outs of Obamas past life, it's of no interest to me. I read the article and interpreted it my way. Your interpretation is obviously different and, IMHO, you are looking for any sign of non PC statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote user="puzzled"]I think this article is very good.http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/feb/06/bbc-race-golliwog[/quote]As a person who has a different cultural background, I found this one useful:A repugnant caricature that should never be toyed with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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