EmilyA Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I just phoned the international pensions centre. The helpful young lady confirmed that the form will be on the website from the 1st August, that we only need fill in one form, though it will be split between us and that it will not be backdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I must admit that I've just filled in the old form and will send it off. If it's wrong then hopefully they'll put us right. It's worth the cost of a stamp. If it doesn't produce the right effect we'll try again when the new form comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiling a frog Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 That must be the lady I got the last time I phoned, because about 10 min aga I phoned to query what parsnips had said. I was told in no uncertain terms that because I had left the UK prior to turning 60yrs of age I was not entitled to any payment.That will make some people on this forum and Mr IDC happy.I queried this reply and was told there was a new claim form available from 1st August. I did ask what the point of a new claim form was if I was not entitled. She was unable to answer, just mumbling something about no decision had been made .So there we have it /or not. Not everyone singing from the same hymn sheet.(I apologise in advance to any Christians upset by that idium or to any atheists because I have referred in an oblique way to religion or to anyone else upset by this phrase). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 If I were agnostic then I guess I wouldn't know whether to be offended or not, BaF.[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 ebaynut: To qualify for additional Cold weather payments you have to be on benefit other than old age pension:Pension Credit Income Support income-based Jobseeker's Allowance income-related Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) If you are on these benefits, then the payment is automatic.From http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/moneytaxandbenefits/benefitstaxcreditsandothersupport/inretirement/dg_10018668 According to this 2010 site it is not possible to get Pension Credit outside the UK (unless its a temporary stay for a reason such as healthcare etc ):http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/experts/article-1689583/Can-I-claim-pension-credit-from-Spain.html I'm not sure about the other benefits being exportable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 [quote user="Boiling a frog"][quote user="John Brown"]I think we have flogged this one to death now.One last thing, I hope, If you have applied before and been knocked back because of the ordinarily resident issue your claim will not be reopened and you need to reapply. Thats from a very nice lady on the UK Pensions Helpline.[/quote] I take it you found the correct stable and spoke to the correct horse this time?[/quote]Had to be this one, I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebaynut Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 RH,Thanks for clarifying that. I thought it may have been because she receives attendance allowance, which is exportable or that she is over 80 and therefore may have been available for people who live outside the UK.I guess another good reason to have had a new conservatory and get below the limit for being eligible , than leave the money earning nothing in the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyA Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 My contact at the international pensions centre seemed to be confirming that we would get it from this year, but not backdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 It seems to have become a right dog's breakfast with many different horses for courses giving 'official' advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 [:)] Back on the racecourse again, I see, Norman!I'm sticking to plan A: Apply and see what happens. They can only turn us down. Whatever the outcome, thanks BaF for drawing this to my attention. Nothing ventured....What odds do you think Ladbrokes are offering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Yes BaF deserves it after all the stick I have given him [:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 [quote user="ebaynut"]RH,Thanks for clarifying that. I thought it may have been because she receives attendance allowance, which is exportable or that she is over 80 and therefore may have been available for people who live outside the UK.I guess another good reason to have had a new conservatory and get below the limit for being eligible , than leave the money earning nothing in the bank.[/quote] There is higher WFA payment if you are over 80 which my mother does get, but she doesn't get Pension Credit so doesn't qualify for the Cold Weather payments even though she has the heating on (very) high winter and summer because her lack of mobility means she really feels the cold. Between the heat, nicotine and she volume of her TV, visits can be somewhat trying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 [quote user="NormanH"]Yes BaF deserves it after all the stick I have given him [:P][/quote]Flogging a dead horse? Sorry.[:$] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 [quote user="cooperlola"][quote user="NormanH"]Yes BaF deserves it after all the stick I have given him [:P][/quote]Flogging a dead horse? Sorry.[:$][/quote]OTOH, I don't think one should look a gift horse in the mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiling a frog Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 It is apparent that you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Then, of course, it could be a Trojan horse and may not be all that it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 It all depends of course, on how good your antivirus is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 [quote user="5-element"]It all depends of course, on how good your antivirus is.[/quote]Gosh, I bet the Trojans wish they'd had AVG. I lay the blame for my embrassing post tally firmly at the door of threads like these, and, of course - by implication - you too, BaF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Or Linux [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyA Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Does anyone know if the updated claim form has appeared yet? I can't see it on the website, but am wondering whether to send off the "claim for past winters" form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsnips Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 [quote user="EmilyA"]Does anyone know if the updated claim form has appeared yet? I can't see it on the website, but am wondering whether to send off the "claim for past winters" form.[/quote]Hi, It's not on the website, and I was told I would be sent one "in August"; so I'll wait till the end of the month before following it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyA Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Thanks Parsnips, will wait a week or so and phone them to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Perhaps they are putting this in place?http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9493975/Pensioners-to-take-temperature-tests-before-receiving-winter-fuel-allowance.htmlIt seems to be causing a bit of feelinghttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatnews/9495812/Ex-pats-could-get-winter-fuel-cash-while-elderly-people-at-home-lose-out.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardener Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Another knee jerk response from that idiot that is IDS! The areas in France that are suffering from a heatwave at present are often the coldest in winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tancrède Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 [quote user="Gardener"]Another knee jerk response from that idiot that is IDS! The areas in France that are suffering from a heatwave at present are often the coldest in winter.[/quote]Hear, hear ! And blatantly descriminatory too. Why should equal help not be given to those who are too hot ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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