DerekJ Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 [quote user="Chancer"][quote user="DerekJ"]If you watch TV at all it's just about impossible not have seen extracts of the program. [/quote]Not true for me, never seen or heard of any UK program other than on this forum.[/quote]I should have qualified the comment.... if you watch any UK TV programs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I watch Sky News every day but thankfully to date they have ignored the world that fascinates so many of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 There seems to be a big audience for these sort of things so it now may be the time to bring back public executions - pay to view of course and Simun Cowall can interview the contestants before they go to the gallows - no - let them decide which method thay can do best justice to - the noose, lethal injection, gas, guillotine, the gun or endless viewing of the X factor in a broken down lift. Viewers can vote for best comedic death or to chose the method of despatch. Monies gained can be used for a lobotomy for all those that do not donate to Simun Cowalls lifestyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celine Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 For those of you who did watch X factor last night (!) ...... what are all these "past their sell by date" artists doing trying to forge their comebacks? Both Robbie (last week) and Whitney were spaced out and ungainly in their performances. It's time for them to move over for the youngsters who are far more current and fit. Some people keep wanting to go backwards in life, but whether you like progress or not, you've got to allow it to happen and put these "have beens" to bed. I am younger than they are and quite honestly feel embarrassed to watch their antics. Great to reminisce about bygone days, great to transport yourself back to your youth, but please let the world move on. Ironically, and getting close to another discussion here, that's one of the reasons why I am not mentally ready to move to France for good and I certainly don't want to fall into the category of those who aren't prepared to move with the times. Maybe I'll feel different and want to "escape" it all one day, but for now, bring it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 I had just finished on the computer and up pops your post.I don't know what Whitney was on but it wasn't any legal medicine as we know it. Her eyes looked strange and she was not on this planet. Her song was........ well not very good and to be honest she would have been better off staying retired so we could remember her for what she was. Her performance was, to be blunt, rubbish, and what with her strap breaking and everything looking like it was about to fall out at any moment, not a nice picture. Oh yes and what was Robbie on last week whatever it was it also could not have been legal.My wife tells me there is quite a lot of stuff on the web drumming up support for 'The Twins' which explains why they are still in the competition coz it ain't their singing that's for sure. Still its good family light entertainment for a cold winters night, it's either that or Come Dancing which out of the two I really can't stand. Well except for all those very 'fit' young ladies wearing next to nothing that is [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celine Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 You rightly mention "The twins" Quillan and they have quite a following amongst the youth. I think it's something to do with 'the dark side."I'm glad you didn't see my posting as being ageist, because I admire people like Paul McCartney, Elton, Cliff for their craft, not that they are my cup of tea. I'm talking about the ones who can't cope anymore but who wont let go. They are really harming their reputations.As for the costumes on Strictly, mmmm!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celine Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 ....... not wishing to brag ......., re-reading my predictions of 12/10/09, my two choices are now in the final six!!However, I do take back my later comment that the oldies who perform are past their sell-by date. That rendition of the Queen song was brilliant and Brian May was outstanding on guitar.The Great Ormond Street single brought a tear to the eye. Proud to be British if we can raise over a million for such a good cause. Maybe we shouldn't beat ourselves up quite so much about our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 [quote user="Celine"]....... The Great Ormond Street single brought a tear to the eye. Proud to be British if we can raise over a million for such a good cause. Maybe we shouldn't beat ourselves up quite so much about our country.[/quote]I'll probably start a row, but what's so great about a country which needs charity to support institutions like these? Surely our taxes should be paying? Puts on hard hat and retreats into bunker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 [quote user="cooperlola"]I'll probably start a row, but what's so great about a country which needs charity to support institutions like these? Surely our taxes should be paying?[/quote]Hear hear!Move over a bit, I'm coming in! [:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celine Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 True to some extent, cooperlola, and no row brewing, but when pupils in my class bring in their £1 donations for charity it makes them think about giving to others less fortunate. Any extra support for any good cause has to be a good thing and I guess the revenue from our taxes is not a bottomless pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I know nothing, but I think Celine is refering to the spirit of generosity of the people to dig deep and support where the government should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 All the government is interested in doing is spending billions upon billions on killing people in a country thousands of miles away rather than looking after its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buelligan Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I know nothing either, I'm just glad I stopped watching all telly years ago, don't give a flying one about "moving with the times" (whatever that means), choose to use my time on earth interacting with real people, making and growing things, listening, thinking and generally being an individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 [quote user="cooperlola"][quote user="Celine"]....... The Great Ormond Street single brought a tear to the eye. Proud to be British if we can raise over a million for such a good cause. Maybe we shouldn't beat ourselves up quite so much about our country.[/quote]I'll probably start a row, but what's so great about a country which needs charity to support institutions like these? Surely our taxes should be paying? Puts on hard hat and retreats into bunker.[/quote]I guess it depends on what the money is used for, there must be lots of little things that aren't strictly necessary but make the patients life or that of their carer easier or more comfortable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celine Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 buelligan, you can't argue with the fact that a tv programme which has over 16 million viewers is a brilliant medium to encourage people to donate to a worthwhile cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 [quote user="cooperlola"]I'll probably start a row, but what's so great about a country which needs charity to support institutions like these? Surely our taxes should be paying? Puts on hard hat and retreats into bunker.[/quote]I agree in principal but the bare sad fact is that there can never ever be enough money to 100% support and fund everything and everyone 100% of the time, even more so in the current economic climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buelligan Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Celine wrote;[quote]buelligan, you can't argue with the fact that a tv programme which has over 16 million viewers is a brilliant medium to encourage people to donate to a worthwhile cause.[/quote]I can actually, it's one of the things that makes being an individual so great! I have no wish to be an acolyte of the Church of St Jade the Charmless. I do not aspire to the Argos Book of Dreams. I see programmes like this as opiate for the masses. I think, if I may paraphrase cooperlola, that any decent society should have its priorities sorted. If we can't look after our own suffering children (because we care, not because it's dressed up in lip gloss and fake tans,) we aren't worth owt.[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I think the key word here is 'encourage' Charities are in some ways no different to lots of other things, they all compete for our attention and cash..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buelligan Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Well that's where we differ, I think the key words are "compassion", "responsibility", "intelligence"...[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The number 1 reason for these charities being highlighted on X Factor are for one main reason. To further increase Simon Cowell's ego and make him look a great and caring individual. It's so easy to big up these things when you're a multi millionaire.The fact the charities will rake some cash in is merely a side affect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 [quote user="buelligan"]Well that's where we differ, I think the key words are "compassion", "responsibility", "intelligence"...[:D][/quote]Well you can have as much compassion, responsibility and intelligence as you like but sooner or later we all have to decide which charities to support, bigger charities have professionals doing their best to make sure you use your compassion, responsibility and intelligence to give them your money rather than other charities. I guess whoever does that job for Great Ormond Street won Simon Cowells support this year...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buelligan Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 How depressing. Perhaps I should have included "discernment" on my list. Discernment for those choosing to be guided by someone as obviously flawed as Simon Cowell. For those who seem unable create a society where people care about things that really matter more than the vapid outpourings of television fluffers. For those deciding how to spend the limited and valuable time they have on this planet.[:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 [quote user="AnOther"][quote user="cooperlola"]I'll probably start a row, but what's so great about a country which needs charity to support institutions like these? Surely our taxes should be paying? Puts on hard hat and retreats into bunker.[/quote]I agree in principal but the bare sad fact is that there can never ever be enough money to 100% support and fund everything and everyone 100% of the time, even more so in the current economic climate.[/quote]The sad thing is that often those who are the most generous to charities are those with the least resources. Taxation - hopefully, and in the right hands - redistributes money from those who can afford it most to those who need it most. Sorry, but sick children should be somewhere near the top of the list at least (although R/H I take your point, the charity money may provide periferals rather than the major care portion.)But then, I'm an old fashioned socialist and a dying breed - no modern government agrees with me any more, they are so obsessed with (failed) moneterist prinicpals, whether they style themselves New Labour or Conservative. Only generous types who give to charities support good causes any more and I think that's just plain sad. It should be the responsibility of everybody - not such a random thing as a charity (which just like a government can be very badly run but at least governments hold elections), that is my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buelligan Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhAr_UeroCk[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 But no government has ever been able to pay for everything we have wanted health care wise and much as we might feel money spent elsewhere is a waste, the situation is what it is so we have a personal choice whether to donate or not....Discernment for those choosing to be guided by someone as obviously flawed as Simon Cowell - LOL - he speaks so highly of you !Actually for personal reasons Great Ormond Street is one of the charities I support. Last year I think Simon Cowell supported a Services charity in some way.......whatever his faults I don't actually see anyone saying no thankyou to the money or publicityhttp://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/511-simon-cowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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