Evianers Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 The Queen is Head of the Church of England: perhaps it is very old fashioned to think that her great-grandchildren might therefore be baptised with Christian names. We were somewhat surprised therefore when we saw her newest great-grandchild is called Savannah Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Is that Princess Anne's son's child? If so, I think his wife is American, so maybe they are good American names; although I seem to recall Kelly being an Irish name - and there was a song about Kelly from the Isle of Man. Don't know where that came from - my memory does throw up odd pieces of info sometimes! [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cendrillon Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I think she might be Canadian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I wonder if either of them have ever been to Savannah ? Historic town, but all those live oaks draped in moss seemed vaguely depressing to me.......or maybe they were thinking of 'the Savannah' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val_2 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I do not understand the wording "christian names" clearly. Do you mean christian in the religious sense as against a name from another faith or christian in the sense of the first name of the english system (in France the first name is the surname). Why is Savannah not a christian name, I have heard it many times given to girls,usually american or canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evianers Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share Posted July 8, 2011 [quote user="Val_2"]I do not understand the wording "christian names" clearly. Do you mean christian in the religious sense as against a name from another faith or christian in the sense of the first name of the english system (in France the first name is the surname). Why is Savannah not a christian name, I have heard it many times given to girls,usually american or canadian.[/quote]Christian names are just that: names of Christians - most noticeably those of saints, like John, Mark, Luke, Catherine, Agnes, Felicity, etc.Savannah is not a "Christian" name, but a first name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Sorry, for many years, first names in the UK were described as "christian names", else why would I always refer to them a such, until I remember that PC today renders the term "first name".... they were not those just given by Christian people .... but the way the first name used to be described. I have never regarded my "nom" as my surname, but as that of my Christian name ie that of my given name, which was chosen for me, so I have great difficulty in filling in forms correctly here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I do think that, for once, the PC brigade have got it right. I can't think that "Mohammed", for example, could in any way be described as a Christian name or indeed "Na" as in Li Na (the Chinese ladies champion of Roland Garros) or Su Kyi as in Aungyang Su Kyi (who gave a brilliant Reith Lecture from special link to Burma last Monday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 If we are getting into semantics, then a Christian name is a forename that has been given at christening. So if you are a baptised Christian, you have a Christian name, otherwise it's just a forename (or 'given name'). More recent usage is that 'christian name' with a lower-case 'c' is an English term for a forename, if you want to make the distinction of a name given at baptism, then the upper-case 'C' is used, i.e. 'Christian name'.Surely, what name is given, whether at baptism or not, is a decision for the parents? 'Princess Savannah' has quite a nice ring to it - better than 'Princess Tracey' or 'Princess Kylie' for example (not that I have anything against people with either of those names).I see the point about the illogicality of referring to names like Mohammed as a christian name, which is why it is probably better to avoid the term in multi-cultural contexts. It reminds me of the joke (I think it was Billy Connolly) - "If Jesus was Jewish, how come he had a Mexican first name?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 A Mohammad name just doesn't have the same ring to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Trunk Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 The actor who played Dr McCoy in "Star Trek" was called DeForest Kelly. Where did that come from? What is the diminutive? What did his mother shout when she wanted him to come in for dinner? Deffy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 [quote user="Edward Trunk"]The actor who played Dr McCoy in "Star Trek" was called DeForest Kelly. Where did that come from? What is the diminutive? What did his mother shout when she wanted him to come in for dinner? Deffy?[/quote]His full name was Jackson Deforest Kelley so I expect she shouted "Jack" when she wanted him. If he didn't come quickly then she might have shouted "Deffy"[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkkent Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Apparently his full name was Jackson DeForest Kelley. Perhaps his mother called him Jack?As for Savannah, isn't that a mis-spelling of a word meaning tropical grassy plain? If we are going to name children after towns then I suggest Bacup, Kettering and Cleethorpes as suitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 [quote user="Clarkkent"]Apparently his full name was Jackson DeForest Kelley. Perhaps his mother called him Jack?As for Savannah, isn't that a mis-spelling of a word meaning tropical grassy plain? If we are going to name children after towns then I suggest Bacup, Kettering and Cleethorpes as suitable. [/quote]Or even Scunthorpe or Goole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cendrillon Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13417930How about "like" for a first name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 My sister in law was a midwife, she was amused at some names chosen and how the parents had chosen them. She picked up a baby's notes one day and said "Oh, you've called her Sian". "No" said the new mother "It's Cyan". She had looked in a book and made her own pronunciation from the spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSKS Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 We think it's important NOT to give children silly names that just become a lifetime burden so we called our firstborn Stephen John.She's not pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkkent Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 [quote user="JK"]We think it's important NOT to give children silly names that just become a lifetime burden .... .[/quote]To Victoria and David, a girl, Harper Seven, a sister to Brooklyn, Romeo and CruzOne can only imagine that this was the title and page of the magazine she was reading when passion overcame them. It is a blessing for the poor child that it was not the Pig Breeders Gazette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cendrillon Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 ClarkkentYou beat me to it! What a name, I don't suppose there'll be another girl with the same name[Www] poor thing.Harper Seven .........sounds a bit like a cleaning product[8-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cendrillon Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Name could be good for her email addressharper7@...........................[;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Funnily enough a friend of my daughters called her daughter Harper - she is a six months old.......but seven ? ? Six I could have understood as she will be the sixth member of their family, did DB ever where a number seven on his shirt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Dooley Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 They've called her...... 7.30?[blink] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSKS Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Maybe she's named after this:http://www.southernstates.com/catalog/p-3773-harper-7-tampico-roof-brush.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Can't help but like Beckham. As for his wife though, she's a talentless bimbo. Shame she has more money than I'll ever have but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evianers Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Hope it doesn't become shortened to "Harpie" or transmuted into "Harpoon". Those poor 4 children with those names. Wonder what the next one will be called...... Space Outer perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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