Stocky Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Once again our friendly Gendarmes have been standing outside stopping vehicles, at least no breath tests this time. It raises the question, driving a French Registered car what documentation should we keep in the vehicle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamedup Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Carte grise, your driving licence, your car insurance and your controle technique if you need one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I thought that it is a question of "must" rather than "should" but I amsure others will confirm/deny.Johnnot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayB Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 [quote user="Iceni"]I thought that it is a question of "must" rather than "should" but I amsure others will confirm/deny.Johnnot [/quote]My understanding is: MUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 [quote user="Iceni"]I thought that it is a question of "must" rather than "should" but I amsure others will confirm/deny.Johnnot [/quote]And a utility bill which establishes your address Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Avery Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 That was a joke wasn't it Anton[:)],The carte grise has your address, you should carry all the documents mentioned but if you don't have your license you can show it within 24 hours but you may be fined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jc Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Keep them on you;DON'T leave them in the vehicle!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 If you look up the dictionary definition of should you will discover that it is really the same as must.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 [quote user="P"]If you look up the dictionary definition of should you will discover that it is really the same as must.Paul[/quote]or it may/may not.Inflected Form(s): past should /sh&d, 'shud/; present singular & plural shallEtymology: Middle English shal (1st & 3d sing. present indic.), from Old English sceal; akin to Old High German scal (1st & 3d singular present indicative) ought to, must, Lithuanian skola debtverbal auxiliary1 archaic a : will have to : MUST b : will be able to : CANJohnnot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 [quote user="Jc"]Keep them on you;DON'T leave them in the vehicle!![/quote]Have to disagree . Always keep the vehicle documents in the vehicule and not on your person. With five vehcules in our family , anyone of us who drives any of the vehicles will always know that during a controle, the vehicule papers are at hand, and not in your partners handbag (the term handbag refers to both male and female as it is perfectly oK for men to have handbags here!)Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayB Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 [quote user="Iceni"][quote user="P"]If you look up the dictionary definition of should you will discover that it is really the same as must.Paul[/quote]or it may/may not.Inflected Form(s): past should /sh&d, 'shud/; present singular & plural shallEtymology: Middle English shal (1st & 3d sing. present indic.), from Old English sceal; akin to Old High German scal (1st & 3d singular present indicative) ought to, must, Lithuanian skola debtverbal auxiliary1 archaic a : will have to : MUST b : will be able to : CANJohnnot [/quote]Tell you what, John, leave them all at home and when you getstopped, see if the Gendarme wants to play semantics withyou. Bon chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayB Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 [quote user="Punch"][quote user="Jc"]Keep them on you;DON'T leave them in the vehicle!![/quote]Have to disagree . Always keep the vehicledocuments in the vehicule and not on your person. With five vehcules inour family , anyone of us who drives any of the vehicles will alwaysknow that during a controle, the vehicule papers are at hand,and not in your partners handbag (the term handbag refers to both maleand female as it is perfectly oK for men to have handbags here!)Paul[/quote]I agree with your logic, Paul, and we do the same. The lawdoesn't agree with us, however. We keep it hidden in the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 The following documents are required to be produced during any police check: driving licence, carte grise and insurance certificate. These are the sanctions for non compliance:-Art 211-1: Failure to display an insurance vignette - Class 2 offence, 35 euros fixed fineArt 233-3: Failure to produce an insurance certificate in the absence of an insurance vignette - Class 2 offence, 35 euros fixed fineArt 233-1: Failure to produce driving licence and vehicle registration document - Class 1 offence, 11 euros fixed fineIn each case, the required papers must be produced within 5 days, otherwise each offence is upgraded to Class 4, 135 euros fixed fine.The non-tamperable vignette stuck on your windscreen by the vehicle tester suffices as proof of current CT.So, it's CT and insurance vignettes on your windscreen and driving licence, registration document and insurance certificate in your wallet/car. [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 RayB - do TRY to stay awake, I'm the one who said "must".Johnnot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayB Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 [quote user="Iceni"]RayB - do TRY to stay awake, I'm the one who said "must".Johnnot[/quote]The 'you' was generic, John. I was agreeing with you anddisagreeing with the 'must/can' in the definition. Do try playingcloser attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Zoff Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Apart from the petty - and irrelevant - bickering over the use of the English language (I thought this was a forum for French issues), this has been a very useful thread. I am grateful to Stocky for raising the question and for those who replied with sensible answers. You may have saved some of us from incurring fines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jc Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 [quote user="Punch"][quote user="Jc"]Keep them on you;DON'T leave them in the vehicle!![/quote]Have to disagree . Always keep the vehicle documents in the vehicule and not on your person. With five vehcules in our family , anyone of us who drives any of the vehicles will always know that during a controle, the vehicule papers are at hand, and not in your partners handbag (the term handbag refers to both male and female as it is perfectly oK for men to have handbags here!)PaulHandy for any thieves too;ask the police/gendarmes. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyps Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 How does this relate to driving a hire car in France. To the best of my knowledge when I have hired a car I have never had any documents other than the insurance sticker in the windscreen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I think you may find there is a insurance type-document in the car handbook which is usually found in the glove compartment, along with instructions on what to do in an accident. Your hire document shows that the car hire will have covered the insurance, etc, so sensible to carry that also.It is also sensible to carry driving licence, passport and any other useful docs - and you will not have been able to get your hire car without showing your driving licence and passport, so much easier to carry all the time.The problem of leaving docs with the car, versus keeping on "self" is only one you can decide, but it seems it is wise that they should be with you when you are in the car. I was also advised to keep a copy of the docs somewhere else, like securely at "home" in case of loss of the originals.Hope that helps and doesn't repeat what usually gets posted to a forum whilst I am typing my reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocky Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 Thank you for all the useful responses, the other bickering had us in fits of laughter. Fortunately we are a one car family and I am usually the driver so whether it is in or with the vehicle is not important. Sorry about the use of 'should' rather than 'must' but English 'O' level was one I didn't get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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