The Riff-Raff Element Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Talking toone of our guests a couple of weeks ago, I asked what his plans were for theday. “Well,” he answered, “I’m going to take the car in for a service and fournew tyres.” I confessthat I was a little nonplussed by this, and asked him to elaborate. Heexplained that for his car (a Ford Galaxy - just like ours only much, much cleaner) tyres were half the price in Francecompared to the UK, ditto servicing, so he always tried to get it done inFrance whilst on holiday. On four new tyres (and these are big tyres – all steelreinforcing and double stitched gussets, that sort of thing), he reckoned to besaving about the cost of the ferry crossing from Portsmouth. This chap “knew”about cars, so I’m assuming that he knew of what he spoke (is that English? No matter.) Now, I don’tknow (nor care) much about cars. I’d go so far as to say that there are tribesof Amazonian pygmies as yet unknown to modern anthropology that know more aboutcars than I do. Not in the sense that I don’t know that they need oil, petroland water to make them go, and I know that these MUST be placed in the correctholes or they won’t move. I have a rudimentary understanding of the mechanicsinvolved and (by dint of having written blends for several billions of litresof the stuff) an unhealthily deep understanding of how gasoline works, but Iknow nothing of the advantages of double wishbone suspension, care little fortraction control or sports gearing, and regard satellite navigation as aninsult to intelligence and a threat to human ingenuity. Some people have eventold me that they find driving more invigorating than sex. These are clearlypeople who need some kind of therapy. However,Ithink that I can recognise a potential scheme to make a few shekels, sohere itis: combined fag / booze warehouse shopping & car servicing. All weneed isa large building, a collection of grease monkeys (Polish for preferenceas they seem to have one hell of a work ethic) and big pile ofre-treaded tyres.The “Billies” (the most offensive term I have yet heard for customers –Billy Bunters= Punters) come off the ferry at Calaisand drop the car off with us. We heave them into a charabanc and trot them downto the local liquor mart so that they can stock up. Meanwhile, whatever has tobe done to cars when they are serviced (and I haven’t got a clue what it is) isdone and the customer saves the cost of his beer, fags and Chilean draincleaner on the car, all the better to refill the cellar. I’ve gotabout €10 in petty cash – anyone else fancy in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Yeah, but only if I can be a surly cashier type who doesn't say a dickie bird but just thrusts a hand out for payment and mutters something unintelligible as the billie walks off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Now, where's Miki just when you need him?Is it true that tyres are cheaper in France? I had to keep pumping one of mine up all summer, and now we are back it looks OK. Typical. I'll be your first customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardian Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Jon D ..............Could I be the 'Rhone Concessionnaire' in your new and exciting enterprise?Plenty of local Caves around here, so with a friendly wave from a 'Diva Star' look-a-like / sound-a-like, they could be off for an afternoon's quaffing. Throw in a few olives and bit of tapenade on some stale bread and they'd be happy as Larry (where did that phrase come from?). It's a bit far to drive for a few tyres, but hey, so what?Business name: "RU Pneus"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alane Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Sorry to put a spoke in your wheel but we have a similar car and the last time I looked at tyre prices in France they were pretty much the same price as I could achieve by ringing round the local Kwik Fit, ATS etc. I wonder if he was comparing like with like? The UK guys are always trying to convince me that a standard tyre is OK and I don't need the re-inforced spec that Volkswagen/Ford specify. I even had one who fitted ordinary tyres despite my specifying reinforced and then moaned like stink when I made him take them off again. I have heard that servicing is cheaper in France but never thought it worth the effort of losing a day out of a trip and the thought of discussing over the phone the necessary extra work that the garage had found has never seemed attractive. While my French is reasonable I'm not sure if it's up to querying whether my big end has gone or not. At my last service in the UK the garage called to say that my anti-roll bar down-links needed replacing - how would I cope with that in French (or Polish) I ask myself. Now if your warehouse is staffed with English speakers you may well be on to a winner..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 I remember researching this (well the tyre bit) when we had the Espace, no real difference in price, at that time anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owens88 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 [quote user="Jon D"]However, I think that I can recognise a potential scheme to make a few shekels, so here it is: combined fag / booze warehouse shopping & car servicing. All we need is a large building, a collection of grease monkeys (Polish for preference as they seem to have one hell of a work ethic) and big pile of re-treaded tyres. The “Billies” (the most offensive term I have yet heard for customers – Billy Bunters = Punters) come off the ferry at Calais and drop the car off with us. We heave them into a charabanc and trot them down to the local liquor mart so that they can stock up. Meanwhile, whatever has to be done to cars when they are serviced (and I haven’t got a clue what it is) is done and the customer saves the cost of his beer, fags and Chilean drain cleaner on the car, all the better to refill the cellar.[/quote]I think that your idea would work anywhere. Seems like a very all-in holiday package ! Bonne Courage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 [quote user="Diva Star"]Yeah, but only if I can be a surly cashier type who doesn't say a dickie bird but just thrusts a hand out for payment and mutters something unintelligible as the billie walks off.[/quote]Jon D, regardless of the profit margins, which seem to be shrinking by the minute, I think I can do a 'SHOCK'! thing by smiling while taking the money. Sorry DivaViva Star...if you need the cash I'll train you; for a fee, naturalleeeee.[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riff-Raff Element Posted September 1, 2006 Author Share Posted September 1, 2006 Hmmm...perhaps some research MIGHT be prudent. Could someone in the UKcall Kwikfit and get a price for a pair of Dunlop 215/55 R16 95H tyresincluding mounting? I've nip into LeClerc and ask there.Diva - are you able to mumble whilst simultaneously chewing gum andsmoking a fag? If so, I really think we could have an opening here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Never really noticed a great deal of difference with tyres, on a likefor like basis to be honest, certainly not enough to pay for a BFsandwich let alone the ferry fare.Certainly servicing in general is cheaper here, again on a like for like basis.Many of our personal tyres for our cars always came as part worns offcommercial travellers motors (a magouille) and for many years, myservicing was done by a service manager at a well known company, whogot cheap tyres from us and a good trade in. So as in all walks oflife, it's not what you know but.......... [:)]If anyone wants training for any sort car businesses, I can help butyou will need thicker skins than double glazing peeps and even morethan estate agents [;-)] Allo Jean got a new moteur ................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 [quote user="Jon D"]Hmmm...perhaps some research MIGHT be prudent. Could someone in the UK call Kwikfit and get a price for a pair of Dunlop 215/55 R16 95H tyres including mounting? I've nip into LeClerc and ask there.Diva - are you able to mumble whilst simultaneously chewing gum and smoking a fag? If so, I really think we could have an opening here.[/quote] Careful! Asking so much of one's staff might come in expensive as they tend to want fags, chewing-gum, coffee/tea break material, nail grooming material etc... declared as valid expenses in the pursuit of their valuable jobs! Watch your pettycash... [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert the InfoGipsy Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 [quote user="Alane"]While my French is reasonable I'm not sure if it's up to querying whether my big end has gone or not. [/quote]Translations would surely be part of the service? "Est-ce que ma fin grande est allée?" Easy peasy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alane Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 And I'd never thought about my big end being feminine before. You learn something new every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montagrier Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Well in the dordogne for some reason the price of tyres for transit vans is about twice the price of UK .I could do all four for 140 quid in UK and its 170E here for 2 tyres. I had french tyres up with french paint, something to save up for....monti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerdesal Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 [quote user="Alane"]And I'd never thought about my big end being feminine before. You learn something new every day.[/quote]Maybe its feminine because women are supposed to do the repairs whilst the men sit and drink beer (also feminine) [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riff-Raff Element Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 I've been quoted €460 for the proper reinforced jobbies, €320 for apair of the non-reinforced ("which are just as good - all the taxis usethem"). That includes fitting. Anyone get anything from Kwikfit???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I spend part of the winter in southern Spain.It's much cheaper for servicing and tyres than France. I have my vehicles done there annually. Perhaps you should operate your business there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
united Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I bought 4 new tyres this year and saved myself over £100 on the prices the multiples like Kwik Fit, Tom Farmer, Costco etc quoted. I used the net and found http://www.blackcircles.com/. They supplied the tyres and gave me a choice of 3 or 4 local garages who would fit them and dispose of the old tyres. I turned up by appointment and everything was really efficient.My only connection with the firm is that of customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alane Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 JonI paid £58 each for 195/65 15 Reinforced Firestone's at a local dealer- most of the newer Galaxy/Sharans use larger tyres - mine is getting on a bit now so may not be the same size tyre as yours of course. That was the cheapest I could find locally in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert the InfoGipsy Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Alane: "And I'd never thought about my big end being feminine before. You learn something new every day."As in 'does it look big in this' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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