Rabbie Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Lets wait and see what happens on July18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote user="Russethouse"] Do you honestly think its OK for a man in his position of authority and trust to go round having casual sex with any one who happens to be to hand ?[[/quote]If it is consensual then absolutely!What kind of people would be attracted to the top dog positions if there were no perks? [:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 [:D][:D][:D]Thankyou for putting some humour back into this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJT Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Perhaps the information I heard on the UK news was wrong but I thought that he has claimed all along it was consensual.[8-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Quite, I suspect that some people are fixated on the alleged crime and are either just ignorant of the bigger picture or choosing to ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 And some people, most of them not "Anglo-Saxon"[:D], are tainted with amoral immorality.[6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 And some people jump to conclusions without yet knowing the facts. [Www] Last night on the news there was yet another version from her, that he had refused to pay her for her "services", so she made up the rape story! Wonder what it is going to be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Clark Kent, I like your analysis, and its conclusion. Sadly, whatever happens in the end, the woman is a real victim and will probably continue to be used by Pierre, Paul, and Jacques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote user="Christine Animal"]And some people jump to conclusions without yet knowing the facts. [Www] Last night on the news there was yet another version from her, that he had refused to pay her for her "services", so she made up the rape story! Wonder what it is going to be next. [/quote] As far as I am aware no one has denied there was a sexual liaison so my feeling is that its already very bad, if it was actually rape its considerably worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote user="Christine Animal"]And some people jump to conclusions without yet knowing the facts. [Www] Last night on the news there was yet another version from her, that he had refused to pay her for her "services", so she made up the rape story! Wonder what it is going to be next. [/quote]My facts are Sofitel contact Accor; Accor contact Madame Pompadour's Hôtel; duty officer in the "officine" contacts UMP Militant.UMP Militant tweets within an hour of the event.....the media in New York later got hold of the story.....for reasons of professional pride they decline to admit the tweet source.[:)]And your facts!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I don't have any yet, still waiting! [:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Alls well that ends well.Tristane has finally got off her "butt".[8-|]http://www.20minutes.fr/article/752719/tristane-banon-va-porter-plainte-tentative-viol-contre-dsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote user="Russethouse"]Quite, I suspect that some people are fixated on the alleged crime and are either just ignorant of the bigger picture or choosing to ignore it.[/quote]I dont know about choosing to ignore the bigger picture, for me there simply is not one, the polemique is did DSK commit rape or another sexual offence or is he innocent.I would prefer to be fixated on the crime, alleged or otherwise than preoccupied on what consenting adults choose to do in their free time or speculating and generalising on whether men, powerfull or otherwise are capable of keeping it in their trousers.Speaking for myself I am rather pleased that my father whoever he may have been chose not to keep it in his trousers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote user="Russethouse"] As far as I am aware no one has denied there was a sexual liaison so my feeling is that its already very bad, [/quote]I didn't know a sexual liaison was " bad ", if both partners agreed.. A rape is a crime . Completely different . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote user="Chancer"][quote user="Russethouse"]Quite, I suspect that some people are fixated on the alleged crime and are either just ignorant of the bigger picture or choosing to ignore it.[/quote]I dont know about choosing to ignore the bigger picture, for me there simply is not one, the polemique is did DSK commit rape or another sexual offence or is he innocent. [/quote]Agreed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote user="pachapapa"]And some people, most of them not "Anglo-Saxon"[:D], are tainted with amoral immorality.[6][/quote]Oh lala, j'ai peur, je rotirai en enfer ? [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Latest poll about the opinion of the French : Le Parisien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote user="Chancer"][quote user="Russethouse"]Quite, I suspect that some people are fixated on the alleged crime and are either just ignorant of the bigger picture or choosing to ignore it.[/quote]I dont know about choosing to ignore the bigger picture, for me there simply is not one, the polemique is did DSK commit rape or another sexual offence or is he innocent.I would prefer to be fixated on the crime, alleged or otherwise than preoccupied on what consenting adults choose to do in their free time or speculating and generalising on whether men, powerfull or otherwise are capable of keeping it in their trousers.Speaking for myself I am rather pleased that my father whoever he may have been chose not to keep it in his trousers.[/quote] Excellent post. Merci. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Yes, sums it up, really !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 In a "nut" shell. [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote user="pachapapa"] Alls well that ends well.Tristane has finally got off her "butt".[8-|]http://www.20minutes.fr/article/752719/tristane-banon-va-porter-plainte-tentative-viol-contre-dsk[/quote] Et DSK contre-attaque !DSK va porter plainte contre Tristane Banon pour dénonciation calomnieusehttp://fr.news.yahoo.com/tristane-banon-annonce-porter-plainte-contre-dsk-tentative-135246787.html There will surely be a film later on. [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 What could it be: "DSK - The Return"...[:P]or "The Son of DSK" (well, nobody has got pregnant yet, or have they?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 The more I see of this, the more disgusted I become.Tristane Banon is a young woman who, from what I have read was badly advised when this first happened. And now she has decided to do something is being attacked. Poor poor girl. I just hope that if any woman who posts on here is ever a victim of sexual assault, that it is not by a man who believes himself above the law of any country and too rich and powerful to make you feel not only violated but completely insignificant and worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard51 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote user="idun"]The more I see of this, the more disgusted I become.Tristane Banon is a young woman who, from what I have read was badly advised when this first happened. And now she has decided to do something is being attacked. Poor poor girl. I just hope that if any woman who posts on here is ever a victim of sexual assault, that it is not by a man who believes himself above the law of any country and too rich and powerful to make you feel not only violated but completely insignificant and worthless. [/quote]Excellent post, Idun! I, too, am disgusted by the attitude of some on here. TBH the opinions expressed on here just show how low French moral standards are...somewhere in the gutter. Women are already subject to character assassination in rape trials; it is less onerous to be the defendant. The offence doesn't need to have been committed by someone 'rich and powerful' - the average Joe in the stand will get more deference and consideration than the victim. The 19thC, misogynistic attitude of French men is the one thing that has truly shocked me during the time we have owned a house in France. The UK is, truly, streets ahead of France.Mrs R51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Chancer, Did your father hold a position of trust funded by the tax payers of several nations ?Did he have liaisons where it was unclear whether the woman was a prostitute or not ? Did he sleep with women who answered to another man ?This is not a man meets woman, overcome with sexual passion, has a romantic roll in the hay Hollywood story, this is grubby, sordid wham bang, thank you ma'am (and not too much of the thank you by the sounds of it) by a married man in a position of trust who should have a better grasp on the meaning of the word 'integritty' and know how to protect his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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