Christine Animal Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Does anyone know how it works in France and is it as open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.(Actually I have no clue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissie Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Wendy if you are interested in FM in France, you could read Sophie Coignard 'un Etat dans l'Etat' published last year. She says that 22% of Masons are currently women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 [quote user="Swissie"]She says that 22% of Masons are currently women.[/quote]That's interesting - I thought they didn't let women in and it was still a male preserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I'd like to ask Q and the other Masons about Jahbuhlun. I realise the thread may well be pulled - they don't really like free open discussion of their dark activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9oxly_jahbulon-et-les-franc-macons_tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Sorry Pachappa I cannot do that link on dial up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahbulon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 I was invited to joined up once. Turned it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluestick Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 It may interest some of our lady members to learn how Women's Rights Campaigners (particularly in la belle France) became Freemasons....................http://www.forteantimes.com/strangedays/events/1179/women_and_freemasonry.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissie Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 [quote user="pachapapa"]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9oxly_jahbulon-et-les-franc-macons_tech[/quote]Thanks for that link ppp - takes me back 35 years and explains a few things I never understood before. Like a VERY expensive number plate with 666 and other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluestick Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 [quote user="Swissie"][quote user="pachapapa"]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9oxly_jahbulon-et-les-franc-macons_tech[/quote]Thanks for that link ppp - takes me back 35 years and explains a few things I never understood before.[/quote]Incorrect, with respect: provides a mixture of 1% fact with 99% warped opinion founded in absolute ignorance and has about as much to do with factual history and reality as one of Dan Brown's kiddie's books.Now, as I have suggested previously, if you want a conspiracy theory to cling onto, then research and study the secretive organisation Common Purpose: and the "Investigative" blather of Brian Gerrish.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2CT1hqBvr4Also See Here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 He seems to have a few links with BNP I noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 In idle moments I've enjoyed this thread, it's been quite revealing.It beats me why any sensible woman would want to join an organisation to dress up and perform ceremonies - but then I can't stand amdram either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluestick Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Thus one is compelled to assume, Polly, you are an anti-monarchist, are wholly against women serving in the military and didn't take kindly to Brownies and Guides?[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluestick Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 [quote user="Quillan"]He seems to have a few links with BNP I noticed.[/quote]A rather strange man I fear, Q.That said, there is cause for us to be aware of such secretive organisations as Common Purpose and its behind-the-scenes power plays, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 [quote user="Dog"] Sorry Pachappa I cannot do that link on dial up[/quote]OK it wont stream on Dial-Up. But if you download and install Miro, you can then download from the DailyMotion site directly to your hard disk; then watch it at your leisure. Miro is free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 [quote user="Quillan"]He seems to have a few links with BNP I noticed.[/quote]Who? Pachapapa![:$] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 [quote user="Russethouse"] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahbulon [/quote] Notice a Mason didn't reply and RH you should know better than use wiki - that was probably all written and edited by Masons. The bul in the centre of Jahbulon is a corruption of Baal - not properly described in wiki probably because he's the devil.I did laugh in a later thread to see The Fortean Times. Those women look serious witches in the FT picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 [quote user="Gluestick"]Thus one is compelled to assume, Polly, you are an anti-monarchist, are wholly against women serving in the military and didn't take kindly to Brownies and Guides?[:D][/quote]I'm not quite sure how you got there (or, rather, felt compelled to get there), with or without a smilie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 So, Polly, one is compelled to assume that you are an out-and-out monarchist and served in the military, after having been a Brownie from a young age and then graduating to being a Guide?[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 [quote user="Dog"]The bul in the centre of Jahbulon is a corruption of Baal - not properly described in wiki probably because he's the devil.[/quote]I have no time for Masonic rituals, Dan Brown or conspiracy theories. But I have to disagree with Dog's somewhat simplistic view of Ball/Ba'al/Bel, although some sources describe him as one of the 'princes of the Hell'. As a denizen of the underworld, Ba'al was thought in ancient times to be responsible for storms, and from that he became known as the God of rain, and hence a God of fertility - a far cry from 'the devil'. Some Jewish sects worshipped Yahweh as the God of 'good things' and Ba'al as the God of crisis, which may be where Dog is coming from. The name was often used in much more general terms (c.f. 'Lord') rather than referring to one individual God.See here for the orthodox Jewish view.Baal was often confused with Beelzebub, particularly as a result of early Christian and Puritan teaching which demonised many of the ancient Gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluestick Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 [quote user="Polly"][quote user="Gluestick"]Thus one is compelled to assume, Polly, you are an anti-monarchist, are wholly against women serving in the military and didn't take kindly to Brownies and Guides?[:D][/quote]I'm not quite sure how you got there (or, rather, felt compelled to get there), with or without a smilie![/quote]'Cos you said, Polly: [quote]It beats me why any sensible woman would want to join an organisation to dress up and perform ceremonies - but then I can't stand amdram either![/quote]And HM The Queen is part of a rigid and strict organisation, dresses up and performs quaint archaic ceremonies: as do soldiers, sailors and airmen; Brownies, Girl Guides and Scouts.And loads of others: including Livery Companies, Freeman of Cities: mayors; Town Cryers; Morris Dancers; archaic functioneries in the Palace of Westminster and so on.All part of Britain's rich cultural heritage: and long may it continue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Morris dancing is a physical activity, not a ceremony. You could have added golf to your list - and I don't play that either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluestick Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Forgive me, Polly: pretty please: I'm being pedantic: however, how would you describe Morris men dancing around the Maypole?Now, I don't dress up for golf: that said I've seen some strange chaps and chapesses in the States dressed for golf![:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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