JohnRoss Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 We asked our généralist about vaccine for la grippe porcine and he said that he would under no circumstances administer it as it was not yet approved and was made in China but did offer me vaccine for pneumonia. I am not happy to have this as although I have breathing problems associated with taking Salazopyrin my wife should not be exposed to anyone having a recent vaccination as she is on chemotherapy. Has anyone else met this reaction from their GP.........................JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 He is correct in saying the vaccines have not been licensed in France yet.See this article (translation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 On the other hand the seasonal Vaccine has been available since Friday, and it is recommended to have it as soon as possible as there needs to be a gap of at least three weeks between the two.I got my prescriptions for the vaccine itself and for the infirmière through yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRoss Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Thanks Clair and NormanH. Yes the doc gave me the prescription for the Yersin powder anti seasonal flu stuff but not the wife for obvious reasons. The vaccine in a shot is not recommended for either of us just now. I will have to ask him about the risks to Madame if I have the other stuff for pneumonia before he sticks it in. I did not know the swine flu stuff was made in China until he mentioned it!...........JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprogster Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 John Ross, your doctor is pulling your leg, as a Swine Flu vaccine is being manufactured by several different drug companies in various countries around the world including the UK. Basically, it is the same drug companies in the same locations that make the sasonal flu vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Another view on this. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRoss Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 Interesting and worrying article Bugbear and maybe I misunderstood the doc when I thought he said chinoise or Chine, maybe he said Chiron! Speaking as someone who already has autoimmune problems associated with Crohn's I will think very hard about having this shot just now. My better half cannot have it or even the seasonal flu stuff as she is on chemo with a well suppressed autoimmune system at this time and is not supposed to go anywhere near anyone who has had a recent vaccination...........JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 But hardly an unbiased scientific source Bugbear ..[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Basic fact 39.Every stated view has a bias Norman.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Just my view.Clearly a very biased article but isnt the whole mediatisation of swine flu and naming it a pandemic biased in itself?I agree wholeheartedly with the following that I copied from the article:Dr. Wodarg told the German press that the widespread fear of the pandemic was an “orchestration,” stating, “It is great business for the pharmaceutical industry. Swine flu is not very different from normal flu. On the contrary, if you look at the number of cases it is nothing compared to a normal flu outbreak.” When asked recently how dangerous he thinks the Swine Flu virus is, Sir Liam Donaldson Chief Medical Officer in the UK answered: ‘It isn’t a killer, but it can kill people... I don’t think we need to fear it, because for many people it will be a mild illness...’ And having had it myself I concur with the followingThe actor who played in the government awareness commercial for Swine Flu managed to contract the H1N1 virus and this is what he had to say about his experience: 'I got a chesty cough, a fever and a temperature... To be honest, I've had worse flus. It was quite mild considering. So, I quarantined myself, sweated it out and that was it really.' There are far more important things to be worrying about in the world today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejc Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I beleive the vaccine having been approved in 1 EMEA country it is now approved in all as the manufacturers went the parallel route in getting the liscenses through.If you are in a high risk cateogory, you should have the vaccine, if not probably best to stay as fit and healthy as possible and take plenty of antioxidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 [quote user="Chancer"]Quoting from elsewhere: The actor who played in the government awareness commercial for Swine Flu managed to contract the H1N1 virus [/quote]I've heard of Method acting, but wasn't that going just a little too far?RegardsPickles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRoss Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Thanks to all for the interesting replies.....................................JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonrouge Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Dear JohnRoss here only our experience. My wife's auto immune system is let us say almost zero in that she takes an anti TNF injection for her Rheumatoid Arthritis and we obviously see a specialist for it. Ahead of the 'jab' being available the Dr gave my wife an injection againsts pneumonia for that it is one of the likely areas of concern for someone with a low immune system. Then this week we both had the seasonal injection against flu.I have to say that in our opinion France does a lot of preventative work medically wise.Some time ago my wife had to have her tetinus jab (lots of jabs) and they included polio and diptheria at the same time.One can only do such much?rdgs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 The receptionist in the Dentist surgery was wearing one this morning to avoid catching this dreadfull modern day terror, I told her that only Michael Jackson and the Japanese wore them and in their case it was to be continue working whilst infected, i.e. to protect others.It will be interesting to see if she is still wearing it when I go for my dental work as it was causing her a lot of problems and discomfort, not surprising considering that it resembled a biological warfare headset, in fact I think that she may have got a mustard gas headset from the WW1 museum next door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 When I flew back from the UK on Sunday there were a few oriental (Japanese ?) in business class wearing these masks and right daft they looked too.Thing is that they weren't wearing them before getting on/off the plane and removed them when the trolley dolly with the drinks and nosebag came round.So, the mask will work exactly how then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aly Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Some masks work but only for 6 hours, they then need to be replaced. France hasn't approved the vaccine its expecetd to do so and it should be available by the end of Nov.The reason is that the vaccine is seen as to toxic.I don't understand what the issue with china is? All vaccines have to be approved by France and the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRoss Posted October 3, 2009 Author Share Posted October 3, 2009 Neither do I now as this shows that France intends to buy from these firms GlaxoSmithKline, Sanofi and Novartis. The latter two are French companies. Though obligatory vaccination for everyone seems a bit over the top!............JR http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13835PS Maybe the doc thought France might buy vaccine from Sinovac as they claim to have produced a one shot vaccine See http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-08/31/content_8638360.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemonimo Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 My doctor has removed all magazines and childrens toys from her waiting room to avoid cross contamination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Did you know that the test for detecting if one s got it is 85 euros, and not paid back by social security?So most people who feel just "rough" don't have it, and my GP said to me that many escape the figures of people infected... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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