Mr Coeur de Lion Posted June 13, 2006 Author Share Posted June 13, 2006 It's ok. We've all got tv licences here in France havn't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Surely having a BBC TV licence only applies in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted June 13, 2006 Author Share Posted June 13, 2006 Who knows? It's not like the license money is given direct to the BBC anyway. I'm happy watching the World Cup on the Beeb at the mo.I have heard if you want to watch the Beeb on the net it is possible to obtain an ip address in England which would enable you to get in on their site. I don't know how to do this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCCMB Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 If it's any consolation, the reverse is also true, i.e. you can't watch French TV programmes over the 'net in the UK. Same thing - a message comes up saying that the facility is only available in France........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalpa Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 When I was in PC World or similar in the UK a few months ago, I noticed a sign indicating a requirement to have a tv licence for a laptop! It appears you have to provide ID with name and address so that the TV Licencing can check you're legal... even if you aren't planning on watching internet tv.Edit:having now read the article, the people at silicon.com sound a bundle of laughs [Www] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted June 13, 2006 Author Share Posted June 13, 2006 From the tv licence web site:http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/index.jsp Do I need a licence? Ifyou use a TV or any other device to receive or record TV programmes(for example, a VCR, set-top box, DVD recorder or PC with a broadcastcard) - you need a TV Licence. You are required by law to have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Roy Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 It's a b***ly cheek considering all the repeats the BBC churn out at us. And I can't understand why we have to pay a French licence when every channel runs adverts.[:@] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderhorse Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 In this respect, since when did the law of England and Wales apply to France? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalpa Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 In France, I believe the licence covers the receiving equipment, not the programs. Go figure![:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderhorse Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 [quote user="catalpa"]In France, I believe the licence covers the receiving equipment, not the programs. Go figure![:P][/quote]To whom were you replying? If what you say is correct, by what authority does the BBC demand a license fee from French residents? [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted June 13, 2006 Author Share Posted June 13, 2006 The BBC doesn't demand it. The government does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJSLIV Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 I haven't seen anything yet that suggests that anybody, other than the French government, will be trying to collect money from TV / Computer viewers in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 From the story I have read there is some wild overstatement going on here.The BBC have said that they will pursue companies who have internet access and allow employees to watch world cup games on the BBC internet feed, if they do not have TV licences for their business premises.The point is that at home (in the UK) your PC will probably be legal because you will probably have a TV licence. If you have a PC with a TV card and no other TV tuner, and therefore no licence, you will need a licence. If you are in the same case and access live streamed TV you will need a licence, if you don't already have one.These licences cover the premises in which the tuners or PCs are located. Companies may have access to streamed TV but no licence. That is what the BBC is trying to prevent.I suppose that a laptop might fall foul of this as it can be used outside of the licensed premises, but the BBC seems to only be targeting companies.None of the above applies outside of the UK and no-one has suggested that it does, as far as I am aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owens88 Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 [quote user="Dick Smith"]The BBC have said that they will pursue companies who have internet access and allow employees to watch world cup games on the BBC internet feed, if they do not have TV licences for their business premises.The point is that at home (in the UK) your PC will probably be legal because you will probably have a TV licence. If you have a PC with a TV card and no other TV tuner, and therefore no licence, you will need a licence. If you are in the same case and access live streamed TV you will need a licence, if you don't already have one.These licences cover the premises in which the tuners or PCs are located. Companies may have access to streamed TV but no licence. That is what the BBC is trying to prevent..[/quote] Confusion reigns. What I say next is open to correction but I believe...A TV card on a computer is a device that makes it work like a TV, picking up signals through the TV broadcast (radio waves ) and converting them for display on a pc/laptop/mac etc.. I had always presumed that they were subject to the same rules (inc. reporting to the authorities) as a normal TV.An internet stream (TV or radio) is coming through your internet connection, which may be telephone lines or whatever. The latest news that the BBC, and others, are prepared to feed a TV programme into the internet for free distribution, but apply geographic licensing laws, is a) news that I believe and b) so laughable (in an Alice in Wonderland sense) that I believe it.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjimbishop Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 If it is indeed still true that you do not need a licence for a portable battery operated TV then you could argue that this applies to laptops as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjimbishop Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Oh it appears your home licence covers everything including TV wrist watchesTV WristwatchRidiculousI don't have a TV after 30 years of addiction to it and a move to france where TV is even worse.Waste of time....go play outside.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalpa Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 [quote user="thunderhorse"][quote user="catalpa"]In France, I believe the licence covers the receiving equipment, not the programs. [/quote]To whom were you replying? If what you say is correct, by what authority does the BBC demand a license fee from French residents? [;-)][/quote]France - I think the "licence" fee in France covers the receiving equipment not the programs.Would any of us pay a UK licence fee if it was required in order to watch / listen to the BBC in France? I think I would. [geek] Most of the content on the non-subscription channels in France is total... is poor... whereas the BBC still does deliver some quality programming once you can get past the soaps. I'd probably pay the licence fee just to continue to receive R4, Jo Whiley and Jonathan Ross.Although, why am I'm dissing the soaps when I come to play on CF...?[blink][:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 When I had my digibox and dish fitted (some years ago now) I was told that the reason the card had to be supplied to a UK address was because of the requirement to hold a UK TV licence. There were also reports on this forum of Sky cutting off people who made queries from French landlines. Fact or fiction?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosebud Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 We listen to the BBC Radio via the PC, and were hoping for ceverage of the England match on Saturday to accompany our viewing on Canal +. Five minutes before kick off they announced that due to 'contractual' reasons thery were unable to broadcast to non UK IP addresses.[:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 I have a Sky contract, taken out since we moved to France, but no UK TV licence nor address. As for the French landline scenario I would not be surprised as Sky would be in breach of their contract with Canal + if they supply their service to residents in France/Spain etc (or something like that).Johnnot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh4 Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 [quote user="Iceni"](or something like that).John[/quote] Something like that is correct John. But Sky have AFAIK no contracts with Canal+. They both have contracts with the Production Studios (Time W; Disney etc..) and it is they who sell the regional rights to broadcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJSLIV Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 I have a Sky contract, taken out since we moved to FranceBut was the contract taken out with Sky direct or through one of the intemediaries who mask you true address?.Do you receive any mailings from Sky each month? Is the registered location for the card at your address in France? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 [quote user="BJSLIV"]I haven't seen anything yet that suggests that anybody, other than the French government, will be trying to collect money from TV / Computer viewers in France.[/quote]If you have filled our a French tax return this year you will have noticed that there is a nice little box that asks you to tick it if you have a TV. If you do then your tax is calculated to include the licence fee. So yes the French government are certainly after yer sheckels. If you don't tick it and they check and find you have got a haunted fish tank then the French tax man throws ALL of his toys out of his cot, big time! Gone are the days when you bought a TV here and filled out the name and address as Micky Mouse, Disney Land or Mr Chirac, Paris.Apparently these were the most used addresses before the change, but as no-one ever checked it the government lost a lot of money. Not no more....John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJSLIV Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 As I said, I haven't seen anything yet that suggests that anybody, other than the French governmentThe original suggestion was that the BBC would be tracking down viewers in France......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerdesal Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 [quote user="Jonzjob"][quote user="BJSLIV"]I haven't seen anything yet that suggests that anybody, other than the French government, will be trying to collect money from TV / Computer viewers in France.[/quote]If you have filled our a French tax return this year you will have noticed that there is a nice little box that asks you to tick it if you have a TV. [/quote]I am sure I read somewhere that the Taxe D'habitation now automatically includes a TV receiving element unless you take action to not pay it. How do non France taxpayers (holiday home) go on if they have a TV in France?Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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