Clair Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Sky has started issuing new cards.Details here: http://www.skyviewinghelp.com/index.htmlIf you are using the "blue with yellow house" card and do not have access to the new white card , you will soon be unable to view the channels which require a viewingcard. Such channels include all those to which you subscribe, channelswhich can be viewed on a pay per view basis, and also Sky3, Channel 4HD, Five US, Five US +1, Fiver, Fiver +1 and some ITV regional variants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Help! What's the solution to this problem? Can't miss the end of the last season of The Shield now, can I?[:-))] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 [quote user="cooperlola"]Help! What's the solution to this problem?[/quote]Without wanting to go into the legality or illegality of viewing outside the UK...If you are a Sky subscriber with a UK address, the new card will be sent there.If you are not a Sky subscriber and have a UK address, contact Sky on 08442 410 595 to order a new Sky FREESAT card (£20?). The new card may not be issued for this service yet...If you do not have a UK address, bear in mind that the new card will need activating / pairing by phoneAlternatively, get a freesat box to receive all these channels.I'm sure a TV specialist will correct me if I've got this wrong... [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzer Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Not quite. Freesat will I beleive be the answer in the long term. I have both systems running, and using a combination of Freesat and non Freesat channels you can obtain more than 400,but for the moment you can receive the main Five, but not the others ie Fiver,5 US etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 400 channels Jazzer! and youre on the forum, nothing on then [:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotmontel Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 HiAm confused (no more than usual!). I understand that the new card will be sent to the UK address, but does the sky box have to be in the UK at the time at which the new card is activated?Anyone know? ThanksL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Avery Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Not seen anything about out of contract cards no longer working. As you can get all the free to air stuff like Ch4 and 5 with an out of contract card or a freesat card why should you not be able to continue to do so? Surely these new cards are only of interest to those who subscribe to SKY through a UK address? Anton, Tim where are you??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 it used to be linked to the box so the card only works in the box it was activated in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 [quote user="Lotmontel"]I understand that the new card will be sent to the UK address, but does the sky box have to be in the UK at the time at which the new card is activated?[/quote]The box does not need to be in the UK, however...The new card is activated by inserting it in a Skybox and calling Sky to give them the details of the Skybox, as shown on the TV screen.If you call Sky from outside the UK, there is a possibility that Sky may see the tel number as being outside the UK and refuse to activate the card.[quote user="Ron Avery"]Not seen anything about out of contractcards no longer working. As you can get all the free to air stuff likeCh4 and 5 with an out of contract card or a freesat card why should younot be able to continue to do so?Surely these new cards are only of interest to those who subscribe to SKY through a UK address? [/quote]The blue cards are still working and, from reading various fora, are still being issued.As I understand it, the new card contains a different encryption code and the old cards will eventually stop working as they will not read the new encryption.As regards the channels, see my OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotmontel Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 [quote user="Ron Avery"]Not seen anything about out of contract cards no longer working. As you can get all the free to air stuff like Ch4 and 5 with an out of contract card or a freesat card why should you not be able to continue to do so? Surely these new cards are only of interest to those who subscribe to SKY through a UK address? Anton, Tim where are you???[/quote]Hi Ron, not all channels available with the current blue skycard (even if you don't pay a subscription) are available with a normal free to view box. For example, Five US isn't. This probably won't be a problem for the majority but as a fan of CSI, I would prefer to carry on getting Five US!So Claire, if, on the off-hand you know (!), if the card is activated in France but your other half is sitting in their house in the UK, could they not telephone SKY and relay the information on the screen? [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 [quote user="Lotmontel"]if, on the off-hand you know (!), if the card is activated in France but your other half is sitting in their house in the UK, could they not telephone SKY and relay the information on the screen? [:)] [/quote]I suppose they could... [:)], not that I would advocate misleading Mr Murdoch's employees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotmontel Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I also would never advocate anyone misleading Mr Murdoch's employees........ [:D]. Lucky that I'm asking all these questions hypothetically......... [Www] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin963 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 In the last card swap-out (2003) there was no need to contact Sky, providing of course one was substituting the correct new card in the correct existing box for which it had been prepared.I'm not quite sure what Sky would hope to achieve by generating six million or so phone calls to their service centre to check box details, but then I'm not called Tim or Anton either, and no longer being a Sky subscriber I shan't bother even to order a free-to-view replacement card, assuming that they are even being considered.In fact my reading of the Sky help page suggests that if you have a bona fide subscription card and its corresponding STB already then you won't need to ring Sky. As in 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzer Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 As I said to my wife only last week, when we were young we had the one channel-now with all the channels available, on occasions it is difficult to find one worth watching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krusty Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I have two of the £20 cards (got them in the Uk in March 2006) .After reading the terms and conditions , it looks like I will have to get new ones.If we replace Viewing Cards within 5 years (if you have paid £146.81) or 3 years (if you have paid £19.57) of your card’s first enablement, then a replacement Viewing Card will be provided to you free of charge, provided that you have complied with these Conditions. If we replace Viewing Cards after that period, you will need to purchase a new one by paying our then applicable charge (which shall not be more than £20). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 You only need a new card if you want to watch Sky3, Channel 4HD, Five US, Five US +1, Fiver, Fiver +1 and some ITV regional variants.The other channels are already available without a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krusty Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 [quote user="Clair"]You only need a new card if you want to watch Sky3, Channel 4 HD, Five US, Five US +1, Fiver, Fiver +1 and some ITV regional variants.The other channels are already available without a card.[/quote]Well done Clair , I have just tried restarting one of my boxes without the card.Result as you say above plus can not get Channel 5 (105) , so no great loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 [quote user="krusty"]I have just tried restarting one of my boxes without the card. Result as you say above plus can not get Channel 5 (105) , so no great loss.[/quote]You can add Five manually: With your digibox turned on, press the "Services" button (near the top of the remote).Select number 4 (System Setup), and then 4 again ("Add Channels").In the appropriate fields enter the following (you move through the fields using the up and down arrow keys).In the Frequency field enter: 10.773,The next three fields are toggle fields, i.e. using the left and right arrows will change the value.Toggle Polarisation to : HToggle Symbol Rate to: 22000Toggle FEC to : 5/6Then select the last button - Find Channels.Channel 5 will now be in the list of channels maybe called 6335Use the Yellow button to place a tick beside each one you wish to storeand when you've finished ticking press "Select". The channel willnow be stored.You can view it by pressing the "Services" button, then 6 ("OtherChannels"), use the arrow keys to move to the channel you want andpress "Select". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krusty Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Thanks Clair , detailed instructions as well ..........very impressed . [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 Krusty, I'd be dishonest if I didn't say I found them via Google... [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKT Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Thanks, this worked really well - isnt it possible to do this for the other channels (ie fiver, five usa etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 No, I'm afraid it's not. Five along with the BBC and other main channels are FTA (free to air) - no card required. Fiver & Five USA are what Sky call FTV (free to view) which is not the same and not quite true.They are not subscription channels as such, but you need to buy a FTV Sky card and have a Sky box to watch them.This is mainly to do with satellite transponder availability which I will go through if you wish.Regards - Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKT Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 thanks very much for the promt reply, think we will save the transpoder disscusion for another time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybear Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I had a problem getting my replacement sky card. I had to give up and went to another firm in the uk. Not sure if i can post there details on here so email or private message me for details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payrac-man Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Hi All,Just had my new £20 White sky card turned on. I brought the box back to UK as I was comming anyway but no need to do so.My local dealer has been told by Sky they will not be issuing Freeview cards after the end of Dec and to remove any advertising about themSo get one quick if you are a Five USA or Fiver fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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