mint Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Death of Clegg?Either way, would anybody worry?http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2072887/Tory-fury-Cleggs-pygmy-insult-Britain-Lib-Dem-leader-accused-talking-nation-down.htmlYeah, yeah, DM but, this might be a case of "don't shoot the messenger".You somehow always knew that the Coalition wouldn't last the whole five years, didn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardener Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I hope it does last. At least the Lib Dems in a coalition can rein in the nasty party a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 Gardener, don't bank on the Lib Dems to have anything like a half-nelson on the Tories. It's simply too feeble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 With all the UK papers saying what a wonderful chap Cameron is at the moment because of his 'NO' vote this could be his 'Falklands' perhaps i.e. if they fall out now might be a good time to call an election especially after Milliband saying Cameron was wrong to vote the way he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 It will last in my book because this will be the nearest the Lib dems get to power, Nick may not though, having been seen to be the other dwarf in Europe . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulT Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 [quote user="Gardener"]I hope it does last. At least the Lib Dems in a coalition can rein in the nasty party a little bit.[/quote]Can they?They got absolutely trounced in the local elections so what would happen if a general election was called?????Cleggs seat in Sheffield looks as though the legs could fall off.I do not think they dare do anything that might cause an election so they will jump up and down a lot and that is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddy Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Is it too cynical to think that those who have office in the government like the little power they have, not to mention the salary and the ministerial cars, to give it up ? I think most of the disagreements will come from those further down the party who recognise that they have very little hope of being re-elected.Hoddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renaud Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Nick Clegg just wants to be a european commissioner. He has no other hope of a political life after the next election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 Actually, Hoddy, one can NEVER be cynical enough when it comes to the topic of politicians, money, ministerial cars and all the other trappings.Look at this and it's just a very tiny example, the tip of the iceberg, as it were...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073012/John-Bercow-leaves-taxpayer-30k-flying-business-class.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Oh yes John Bercow, I suspect more of the opposition voted for him than his own party [:)] My feeling is that Clegg/the Lib Dems will hang on and make the most of what little power they have ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 [quote user="Hoddy"]Is it too cynical to think that those who have office in the government like the little power they have, not to mention the salary and the ministerial cars, to give it up ? I think most of the disagreements will come from those further down the party who recognise that they have very little hope of being re-elected. Hoddy[/quote]No Hoddy, more like the truth. [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 [quote user="Renaud"]Nick Clegg just wants to be a european commissioner. He has no other hope of a political life after the next election.[/quote]Roll on the next election then!Can't be having this coalition which, as compromises go, is as ridiculous as it is untenable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Who/what would you have instead Sweet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardener Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Sadly, I dont think Labour have the right leader in Ed Miliband. I don't dislike him at all, just don't think he is leader material and I am reminded of the Pitt the even younger from Blackadder when he tries to take on Cameron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddy Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I know one thing for certain, after this if anyone has the audacity to tell me I've got the politicians I deserve I won't be responsible for my actions.Hoddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I loved David Mitchell's take on Clegg and other modern politicians:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/04/david-mitchell-nick-clegg-rowingOf course this was written before the guy decided to stand up for one thing he actually appears to believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 ''not quite as noticeable as Eric Pickles''[:D][:P]I think we all want and know that one day the UK is likely to be 'in' the euro, but not today, not tomorrow and not soon, what it will look like then I've no idea, but who doesn't wait til the sales . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I imagine there are plenty in his party who would want David Cameron to go for an election ASAP . While the Labour and Liberal parties still have the leaders they have now. . A freezing cold and wet day end of January that would keep Labour and Liberal voters indoors would do very nicely for the Tories I should think . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 For definite, the fault lines are widening.......http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2074725/Nick-Clegg-Lib-Dem-plot-lobbyist-rally-business-chiefs-Cameron.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote user="Frederick"] I imagine there are plenty in his party who would want David Cameron to go for an election ASAP . While the Labour and Liberal parties still have the leaders they have now. . A freezing cold and wet day end of January that would keep Labour and Liberal voters indoors would do very nicely for the Tories I should think .[/quote]Good idea, whilst you still have the chance of voting; if things get worse sarko could just impose Nicky on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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