PaulT Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46623754In the live reporting section there is a comment seemingly about the closure due to drones being ridiculous. On an aviation forum that I view the threat of drones is very real to the pilots who post there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomoss Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 There was a suggestion on BBC News a short while ago that the drones are a protest against air travel by people concerned about the environment.Apparently commercially available legal drones contain software to inhibit them from flying into certain areas. This would have to be modified by specialists, or the drones "home made", to enable them to enter the airport space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Personally I think that JC is responsible, being a Grinch at heart. Though of course he will deny it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Several things have come to mind about this.Firstly why were the military not called in? Anyone else wondering?What will happen to these people?What is this classed as, because this is bordering on terrorism, isn't it? Isn't it the equivalent of a sort of attack as if these drones had not been spotted, then a plane could have been brought down. And what if it is kids, why is the proper age of criminal responsibility not lower. 99.9% of kids know good from bad, they know and understand doing things that they shouldn't.And could kids get hold a drone without a certain complicity of the parents, who, if it is kids, are also guilty??And all those with their hols ruined, can they put a civil claim in against the perps, for full compensation??? I do hope that they can.I am really angry about this. What with lasers being direct at planes in flight and drones, law to protect flights should be really really draconian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 There are suggestions that some environmental group is involved who object to people flying round the world because it causes environmental damage. Remember that Gatwick is nearish to Brighton, the home of all nutters.I would imagine that the SAS have quietly moved into position and are trying to find the little sods who are doing this. Which is very difficult indeed. If they do get them, I would suggest stringing them up and letting the delayed passengers throw hard objects at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomoss Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 [quote user="woolybanana"]There are suggestions that some environmental group is involved who object to people flying round the world because it causes environmental damage.....................[/quote]Funny. That occurred to me too. [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCCMB Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 If the authorities can manage to find them AND time it exactly right, with luck they'll be able to keep the barstewards in custody over Christmas and hopefully eff up their Christmas in the same way they've done to hundreds and hundreds of innocent people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddy Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I can't understand why there are no measures to prevent this. I live near a less important airport but it has often occurred to me that it would easy to disrupt it with a drone. Lots of people have them these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 The London Standard - Tours flight flies (or it flys) right over my house and quite low. You could quite easily fly a drone into it.These things should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomoss Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 [quote user="Hoddy"]I can't understand why there are no measures to prevent this. I live near a less important airport but it has often occurred to me that it would easy to disrupt it with a drone. Lots of people have them these days.[/quote]Maybe you should have mentioned it, no-one responsible seems to have thought it would happen - except the people with the drone of course........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddy Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 You're right Nomoss I should have , but I think that the chance of them taking any notice of me is small.They do seem to have done things which I presume are anti-tasers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddy Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Mr Google says that there were 92 done incidents in 2017. I don't think it's too fanciful to think that there are many people better placed than me to inform the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCCMB Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 There are measures to prevent this. Unfortunately they're flawed. You know, a bit like the measures to stop nutters with guns walking into public places and shooting dozens of people, or nutters with trucks diving into crowds at big events. You can put measures in place, but there will sadly always be some moron with an agenda who enjoys circumventing those measures for their own reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Surprised that no nutter group has claimed responsibility, yet. Which might perhaps suggest malice rather than cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard51 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Perhaps not the right way to go about things - but just think how much less damage has been done to the environment today.I think nutters are those who don't think rationally. Just think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Rationally defined by whom, dickdick. Mao, Lenin, Hilter were all rational by their lights.The planet could never have started from there. It has 10 times too many people and is going towards the destruction of the unchallenged and destructive species which is destroying it. After that, in a very short time, like in a million or so years a new species will emerge, perhaps more integrated. But it might not, so the whole game starts again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomoss Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 [quote user="woolybanana"]Rationally defined by whom, dickdick. Mao, Lenin, Hilter were all rational by their lights.The planet could never have started from there. It has 10 times too many people and is going towards the destruction of the unchallenged and destructive species which is destroying it. After that, in a very short time, like in a million or so years a new species will emerge, perhaps more integrated. But it might not, so the whole game starts again.[/quote]Actually, it's all happened before. It's just that no-one has yet dug deep enough or long enough to find the tenuous remnants in the dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulT Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 [quote user="Hoddy"]I can't understand why there are no measures to prevent this. I live near a less important airport but it has often occurred to me that it would easy to disrupt it with a drone. Lots of people have them these days.[/quote]On another forum that I frequent:Originally Posted by someone in the USA'Here in the States some redneck with a shotgun would have take care of those pesky drones by now..'Reply by someone in the UK'Easier said than done. The police have pitched up with 5.65 mm's Snipers, shot**** a lot more. Airborne targets have no backstop and a round can go a long way and unlike in some parts of the world we are careful about where we discharge firearms. As a clay pigeon shooter myself my first thought was to shoot it down with a few 32 gram number 6 's but what we have is a well organised and deliberate 'attack' on a civilian installation. I'd rather they track the drones back to the operators than just shoot 'em down'.Quote:Originally Posted by someone in the UKSuspect it would be simple to jam the comm using a directional antenna. Would also point to the source.Reply by same person in the UK'Not so simple, 1 - the law prevents jamming radio signals so Ofcomm would get its piss in a froth ( although no one I know would care in the circumstances ) 2 - Drones these days do not need a remote control to keep them airborne. 3 - the new radio controls operate on 2.4 Ghz are encrypted and frequency agile. Jamming them is NOT trivial.besides, drones can be autonomous, running to a pre programmed mission and able to take off, fly the mission and return to a point and land simply with a single button press. ( My guess is that's how these blokes are doing it. take off from one point, fly a disruptive pattern over Gatwick and then hightail it to a second position to be collected for a battery change and repeat. The crew at either end has very little chance of being caught as it could be a public car park, open land even a moving flatbed vehicle!'So seems they can be quite sophisticated....presumably to stop them being 'nicked'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Whilst jamming of radio signals per say is without a legal permission. This would most likely be seen as a possible act of terrorism so an awful lot easier to get permission.Too out of touch to know about the jamming effect on the latest tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Gathwick service suspended again after unconfirmed sighting of a drone. It only opened a few hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Yep, they are real swines aren't they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomoss Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 The problem now may be that they have to suspend flights whenever some "prankster" says they've seen a drone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard51 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 " Yep, they are real swines aren't they "They must be Brexiteers wanting to show what will happen after March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Nah, they are JC supporters showing what UK will be like if they win power! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard51 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Possibly brother, but it will only effect those that have the money to holiday abroad. Britain does have wonderful places to holiday in. Who needs to go flying to see Santa. He has a flying sleigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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