Floor sander hire?

[crossy67]

Are floor sanders easily available to hire?  Any ideas on cost would be good if any one has any experience.

Thanks

Ian

[Quillan]

Yes they are, look in Pages Jaunes (http://www.pagesjaunes.fr ) for your nearest hire shop. I have rented one but I can't remember how much it cost, sorry.

[Anton Redman II]

Kiloutou and Locomat are the biggest chains.

Search in yellow pages on

'Location' then select

'Location de Materiel de Bricolage

Kiloutout as below

http://www.kiloutou.fr/Location/Location-Decoration/Location-Ponceuse-a-parquet-et-bois/Location-Ponceuse-parquets-3cv-220v

[just john]

There is a Locomat just outside of Riberac on the road Villetoureix, which is probably nearest to Aubeterre

[crossy67]

Fantastic new, thanks all for your help. 

I am trying to decide weather or not to buy a cheepy to bring over, use then sell on or weather to just hire one.  The list of things I am buying or going to buy is getting a bit on the long side and I think we will need an extremely big truck just to get it over.   I am on the lookout for an 8meter+ scaffolding tower too.  John, if you've been passed our house you will understand why, it's flaming high.

[Pierre ZFP]

Hire one!!

Unless you're planning to spend a LOT of money buying one.

The usual sort of sander you see in Brico sheds just isn't up to it and you will be sure to spend hours in frustration to get a reasonable finish

Use the 'industrial' version and the job is done better and far faster.

Don't forget spare sander belts of various grades, the hire shop I went to (in the UK) did sale-or-return on these.

You know of course to bash any nail heads below the surface of the wood - I missed one or 2 with bad results

[Chancer]

Buy a decent one in the UK if you are able together with plenty of belts, you will save a kings ransom in hire charges and for the price that they would rush you for the sanding belts you might as well share your showers in prison with Bubba, you will not be rushed to get the job done and you will sell it on easily for a considerable profit.

This is true of most specialist construction equipment.

[crossy67]

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you might as well share your showers in prison with Bubba

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Interesting analogy there, had much experience of those sort of things have we?  [kiss] lol  or should it be[8-)]

I have been watching some on Fleabay they seem to be going for about £300 for the drum/belt ones.  I have at least two stories I want to do and might want to do the other if I get carried away at about 60 square meters a floor it adds up a bit.

[Chancer]

I brought over une dameuse, the hire charges had reminded me of Bubba [:-))] and I did manage to borrow one but even at a bottle of whisky each time it soon added added up and as my work is fragmented its much better to have the right tool to hand than to bodge it another way for the smaller jobs.

There is also the question of operator fatigue, not such an issue with floor mounted stuff but if you hire something heavy or arduous you can whack yourself out trying to get the job done during the hire period.

I am finish sanding the placo bandes on ceilings at the moment, I bought une ponceuse à platre girafe and it is an excellent piece of kit but for me, working with my hands above my head is always tiring let alone when trying to keep something heavy stable, when I tire thats when the disc decides to dig out the bande [:(]

My pal who ironically bought the exact same one in the same promo (he's the only person in France I share tools with) told me that for his last development he hired one and tried to do both plan pieds in one go, he made a pigs ear of it and it put him in bed for a week with a bad back.

At the end of this chantier I will probably have a big sell off.

[Gluestick]

The pukka industrial jobbies are an expensive bit of kit: £3-4K.

However eBay offer this(Or digging deeper into the mire apparently a fleet of the bloody things!).

See Here:

[Chancer]

La dameuse bless her, there are always people wanting to borrow her at this time of year [;-)]

http://www.motomag.com/local/cache-vignettes/L600xH400/1-canada-9-12c4c.jpg

[crossy67]

I was thinking more like this one.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HIRETECH-HT8-1-FLOOR-SANDER-110VOLT-/350423061316?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item5196d79344

[Dave&Olive]

hi ok

    Have you used a drum sander before ??   If not get a belt sander ,you will pay a bit more for the belts than the flat sanding sheets but  you will not get the horizontal marks across the floor.

                          Dave

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[crossy67]

Thanks for the tip Dave.  I have a small B&D belt sander but I think it will take a bit too long to do all the floors even though they are in quite good condition.

[Dave&Olive]

hi ok

                I did mean a floor BELT sander  that one is a drum sander   ???

           http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/98-Dust-Free-Pro-8-Belt-Floor-Sander-Sanding-Machine-/220561049477?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item335a768785

           Dave

[Anton Redman II]

Remember you may also need a method of dropping the voltage to 110 volts as well.

[crossy67]

That's the easy bit.

[Sunnysandals]

I can highly recommend Regis Location http://www.regis-location.fr/agences.html. We hired a ponceuse a parquet just before Christmas for a weekend and it cost us 70 euro, which included TVA and 10 bandes which they will take back if you don't use. They were extremely helpful and we picked up a brochure which gives you the hire charges of all the other equipment they hire out.

[crossy67]

Well at 70 Euros a week I think I might just as well hire one.

Thanks all.

[Anton Redman II]

Price was for weekend not week and company does not have wide coverage of France.

[crossy67]

Well I have bought a 240volt drum sander, the belt sanders were dearer than now wood would have been[:)]

Now I have a couple more questions to ask of you lovely people if I may?

The boards on the ground floor are exotic redwood and generally in good condition despite being covered in a layer of self levelling screed that in places had to be chiselled off, literally!  The boards on the 1st floor are oak and a bit rougher, the top floor are cheap pine, yuck.

I could do with some advice as to grades of paper to buy and how much I am likely to need if any one with experience could share some knowledge please.  There is about 40m2 on the ground floor and about 60m2 on the other two floors.  I want to wax the floors when finished.

Thanks again.

Ian

[Sydney and Huggy]

We are just home after doing our bedroom floor and delighted with the results, previously the hay loft where all manner of things had been stored/spilled and a dirty greyish colour. After spending days last year with a belt sander and it taking for ever to clean up a couple of square metres we hired a drum sander from Loxam who seem to be pretty well all over France(http://www.loxam.fr/) for around €90 for the weekend including half a dozen belts. 

Depending on just how rough the floor is you might need to start with a 60grit to get the heavy stuff off and then work through 80 and 120 and maybe even finer to get the finish you want. There's no easy way to do it with the belt sander other than down on your hands and knees - pretty much essential to use gel knee pads and a decent mask.

 

The water-based varnish raised the grain a bit and the hour spent on our knees giving it a light sanding with 240grit was worth the effort before the top coat went on.  Maybe someone can give some advice on the best finish for applying wax.