Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Haven't received this yet, anyone else had the same problem? Just looking at last years and the payment due date is 15/10/2009. If it's the same this year, well, they're leaving it a bit late.Also, is this paid in arrears or advance? ie when I pay it, is this payment for 2011?I want to pay monthly too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Have you tried to log in to your tax account online via www.impots.gouv.fr? You will be able to see all your tax information, including any "avis" that may not have yet reached you.RegardsPickles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 I have, but I haven't got a teledeclarant code. Or can't see one where it says there's one on last years bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etoile Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Well once again this year they have sent our bill to our old address in the UK which we sold three years ago. Incredible incompetence - let them all go on strike and bolt the door behind them I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 I'm getting to that attitude with them Etoile. If they want paying, all they have to do is send the payment to the correct place. They know where to send it, it's not hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 double post, unable to delete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 The bill you get now is for 2010. It is for owners who own the property on the 1st of Jan of the year. So if someone wanted to say pay by direct debit, then they would have to pay this bill when it comes and then the direct debit would start in January and be for 2011's bill, adjustments if the DD doesn't cover the amount due, for whicheveryear, are usually made in Nov and Dec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I think you are mixing that up with the Taxe d'habitation.Whenever I have bought a house I have paid a proportion of the foncier based on the percentage of the year I will have the house. ( a friendly arrangement overseen by the Notaire)On the other hand the Taxe d'habitationis payable for the whole year by the person living there on the 1 st January, even if that person moves out on the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Idun is quite correct. The liability for both property taxes arises on 1 January and the bills are payable by whoever occupies (TdH) and owns (TF) the property on that day, regardless of whether they sell it on at a later date. In the case of a subsequent sale involving a pro-rata agreement over the tax fonciere, the seller pays the tax bill as usual then recovers the agreed share from the buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 Should I be concerned that I haven't received my taxe fonciere yet? Anyone else not received theirs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulT Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 [quote user="Mr Coeur de Lion"]Should I be concerned that I haven't received my taxe fonciere yet? Anyone else not received theirs?[/quote]Received ages ago - paid on line with payment due on 15 October, tomorrowPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 Hmmm, perhaps I need to pay a visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 [quote user="Sunday Driver"]Idun is quite correct. The liability for both property taxes arises on 1 January and the bills are payable by whoever occupies (TdH) and owns (TF) the property on that day, regardless of whether they sell it on at a later date. In the case of a subsequent sale involving a pro-rata agreement over the tax fonciere, the seller pays the tax bill as usual then recovers the agreed share from the buyer. [/quote]So I am also right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confused of chalus Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I had not recieved my tax fonciere this year either. Went to the Tresor Public this morning, discovered it had been sent to UK address (again), under my maiden name (last used 39 years ago). Tax paid, 'new' name and address entered in computer for third year running. "No guarantees it will work next year either madame".So thanks for reminding me it needed doing.Still puzzled why they use my maiden name, and why income tax and tax d'habitation arrive addressed correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 They could save a fortune by actually listening to people and entering the correct information on their computers. How much postage they must waste every year by sending to incorrect addresses.It really is not rocket science.I've decided to leave it and let them contact me if they want my money. Don't see why I should exert myself. They wouldn't for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Âme Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Hi Richard, quite agree with you, but there is the 10% fine to consider. I just paid mine on-line because the office is closed today (strike action).Should you wish to do so, you need the ref numbers from your income tax bill, then the amount of Foncieres owing is shown on screen. (you need a RIB to pay it on-line. )FYI: there is an extra five days grace if you pay on-line. So you are in time. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 How can they fine you if they haven't told you you have a bill and a due date though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 That is the trick to it. Ignorance of your bill is not an excuse. And a search will tell you when bills are due and to be paid.http://www.calcul-impots.com/calendrier-fiscal-2010,5.htmlThere you go all the payment dates for 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Doctor Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Hi, I hopefully did the right things to pay my first TF bill online, perhaps someone can reassure me? On the impots website I entered my personal and avis-specific data and it correctly located my bill. I entered all my french bank account details to authorise the payment and clicked the go button. I then received a confirmation email, but it had an attachment which I printed off, attached a R.I.B to, then posted it off to my bank in france. I think it implied that the payment would then be drawn after 15th October, so any time now. Does that sound right? The proof of the pudding will be if and when it comes out of my account, but it seemed a bit of a cumbersome way of doing things (though not for France of course!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 19, 2010 Author Share Posted October 19, 2010 Well, I went down to the local tresor and told them I didn't receive this year's bill.They told me they sent it early Sept, but I didn't receive it, nor did my tenants, so no idea what happened.No fine or anything, simply printed out a copy for me and I paid on the spot.Also sorted out monthly payments for next year, so from now on it should never be a problem again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Just for Information:You can do the same monthly payments for the Taxe d'habtation, but they will probably ask for a separate RIB . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 19, 2010 Author Share Posted October 19, 2010 Tax d'habitation is a thing of the past for me.Well, for the next 2 and a bit years at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 I presume you will be renting it out to someone else who will pay them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 No NormanH, I think that he bought a new house and is exempt for a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Lucky guy:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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