Théière Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 On a happier note we do have Adele, just as big a talent and a lot more reliablehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA8A7N-i4u8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Kate Bush is my favourite.She's how a celebrity should be. She's original, has one of the best voices I've heard in modern music and doesn't make a song and dance (pardon the pun) out of herself. She's very private and keeps herself to herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I am so glad that we are all so different, KB not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Kate Bush has far more right to be classed as one of the greats than Winehouse though. Her music has influenced so many artists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Really ? Actually I admire the way she lives her life but you can keep her music esp Wuthering Heights - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I dare say Bush even inspired Winehouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virginia.c Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 For me as an avid reader and music aficionado, Wuthering Heights was the most perfectly appropriate musical interpretation of a piece of fiction. I had read (and loved) the book and, when the song was released, was in awe of the talent which wrote such a remarkable musical accompaniment. I still listen to it regularly.IMHO Amy Winehouse had a wonderful and original voice whichmhas inspired a host of inferior imitators. Her interpretation and phrasing of her music was as remarkable as Sinatra's. Addiction is a disease as much as any other, it is a tragedy when anyone succumbs to it.And, as for the 'is she worthy of all the press attention?' question, well, we unfortunately live in the age of celebrity culture where faith of any kind has been replaced by the God of fame, but that is not Amy's fault. May she rest in peace as may all those whose lives have been cruelly cut short whether by addiction, disease, war, famine or violence.Hereby endeth the lesson with apologies for strange typos etc. It is late -early? And I'm too lazy to turn the brightness up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 M Coeur de Lion, do you really believe that about Kate Bush, well knock me down if you do. Wuthering Heights make me cringe like running a nail over polystyrene, and for the rest, well, nothing exceptional at all; someone I had forgotten about and am amazed that everyone else hasn't forgotten her.LOL when I saw you say 'I dare say Bush even inspired Winehouse' really my instant reaction was, why would George Bush inspire Amy Winehouse, the penny took a few seconds to drop.Anyway good job we don't all like the same things, be a funny old world if we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 It seems her drug of choice was Ketamine .As its mostly used to sedate horses it must have been stolen from or sold on by from a vet I assume. I don't suppose the dealer who sold it to her has any remorse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 [quote user="idun"]M Coeur de Lion, do you really believe that about Kate Bush, well knock me down if you do. Wuthering Heights make me cringe like running a nail over polystyrene, and for the rest, well, nothing exceptional at all; someone I had forgotten about and am amazed that everyone else hasn't forgotten her.LOL when I saw you say 'I dare say Bush even inspired Winehouse' really my instant reaction was, why would George Bush inspire Amy Winehouse, the penny took a few seconds to drop.Anyway good job we don't all like the same things, be a funny old world if we did. [/quote]Do I believe she keeps herself to herself, yes I do. When was the last concert she performed in? She rarely gives interviews despite demand, and rarely makes public appearances. Regarding Wuthering Heights, I don't like that song either, but she has written some very good stuff, but I do admit that I think appreciation of her music is an acquired taste. There is a great deal of depth to it that can't be seen on just a few listens imo. Even now after 30 years of listening to her stuff, I am finding new ways to appreciate it. Her old stuff is definitely the best but I think she has done a couple of really bad albums too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 [quote user="Frederick"]It seems her drug of choice was Ketamine .As its mostly used to sedate horses it must have been stolen from or sold on by from a vet I assume. [/quote]Ketamine is widely available and its use has long been extended from its original purpose to become one of most popular recreational drug used by clubbers in the UK.There was a recent news item about a young woman having drowned in her bath after taking ketamine (article HERE). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWINKLE Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Remember when we talked about her 3 years ago on the forum? I do. http://www.completefrance.com/cs/forums/3/1409176/ShowPost.aspx#1409176 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Well looks like my view didn't change much and those that forecast her early demise were right - what a shame ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ice-ni Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 We live in a strange world when we forget that many great past writers/musicians took then legal drugs and no one cared. Sherlock Holmes was portraied as a drug addict in the books and Queen Victoria - like many women in her times was taken with Laudenum (opium I think???). Victoria is supposed to be the first woman to have heavy sedation in child birth. (I don't mean gas and air!).Some of us inherit an addictive personality but are lucky enough not to mix in circles where the real stuff goes round - Crack is supposed to be totally addictive at first use as heroin can be. We are all in charge of ourselves but for some, one try and they never own themselves again.I remember reading a diatribe against someones alcoholic father - He died, she said as I knew he would, with a glass of whisky in his hand, drunk at 78. He fell dead to the floor. I am trying to find a better way to go - but then each to their own poison. One of my friends will not even use toothpaste with flouride (might give her cancer etc) but has a hangover every day - we are all different. Amy knew what Amy wanted and it was out of this life. It is not ideal for everyone. My daughter was given 3 weeks to live at birth and has celebrated her 40th birthday this year - very disabled but very determined to make the best of everything, her holiday in France was almost all spent in Figeac Hospital - no language problems as she has learnt to sign for her deaf friends and sign language is universal. Perhaps the wrong people get the brains and others get the determination to make life good for all around them. I don't know but I hope Amy is content now. Each person is their own person and I would not compare her to anyone - May She Rest in Peace.Er indoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Amy knew what Amy wanted and it was out of this life How do we know that ? It could just as easily been an accidental over dose IF it was an overdose...., or just could have been reckless one time to many.....As far as I know autopsy results are inconclusive at present and they are awaiting the result of further tests..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 There's a tribute from Russell Brand in the Mail today which is a sad and touching read - you have to scroll to the bottom of the pagehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018385/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Parents-Mitch-Janis-visit-tributes-Camden-home.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAiffricaine Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I feel sad for her parents who must have dreamt a better ending for their quite talented girl. Just heard that we shall know in 4 weeks time the results of the how she did go... Seems an awful longtime to know the patently obvious ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nectarine Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I've little time for Russell Brand, an ex-addict and so-alled comedian, but was deeply touched by what he wrote about Amy and addiction in general:http://www.russellbrand.tv/2011/07/for-amy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Just heard that we shall know in 4 weeks time the results of the how she did go... Seems an awful longtime to know the patently obvious ... Could have been drugs or drink or a heart attack induced by either or emphysema - not quite so obvious....[6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I was thinking while cleaning today (I do sometimes, I know it is dangerous and very tiring) that early on people made some comparisons with other musicians that have died but who really would you have to compare her with dead or alive.The first 'problem' is the genre of music she sings namely R&B, Soul and Jazz. The only other true female artist I can think of to have bridged all of these genres is the American singer Etta James who many believe is the best female singer of this type of music. Strangely there is a comparison between the two in that James was, for a time, both an alcoholic and heroin user although fortunately she lived through it. If one was to look at a combination of any two of the three genres I would have to say that Aretha Franklin, Alison Krauss, Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald and of course Etta James were better artists although I would put Winehouse in the top ten of all time greats I wouldn't say she was the best. That said it's a sad loss but then if a person is so intent on going 'self destruct' then there is not a lot anyone can do.RH, I believe the wait for the report is due to the quick burial as she is from a Jewish family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Actually I suspect it's for toxicology tests, but I think there is far too much jumping to negative assumptions - Love Etta James, would AW have ever had that depth ? We'll never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 The autopsy failed to tell what killed her then.Amazing that we can tell what killed a mummy 3000 years ago, yet we can't tell what killed a drug infested rock star last week...Edit: The news didn't mention the fact that it takes up to 4 weeks for the report to come through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ice-ni Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Oops, just suffered a serious senior moment.On reading that Mark Ronson had attended the funeral I thought "but he can't, he's dead", then realised that it is Mick Ronson who couldn't go.It must be the heat.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 For all the adulation and claims of being a great star etc, amazingly she never even had a number 1 single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Ultravox "Vienna" was also kept off the top slot by Joe Dolces "Shaddap You Face". so the public are idiots what's new [:)]She will be No1 very soon as sales soar!Documentary about Amy tonight channel 4, 11pm UK time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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