idun Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 If someone would be so kind as to tell me. Do french ipads and iphones have qwerty keyboards. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 IPhone, IPads and Android devices all have 'soft keys'. This means that the keyboard layout adjusts to the language you set. Also do not forget there is a difference to the layout for US English and UK English when you switch back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 An iPad is an iPad is an iPad end of story, same for all tablets and smart phones etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm sure I've seen friends type on their ipads, haven't they, have I misremembered? it is possible.What I know is that french pc's have an azerty keyboard, because I'm using one. Me, I have a very old nokia phone that doesn't take photos. And a pc and that is it. Whilst I can continue doing everything I need to do with these, ie just use the phone from time to time and the pc does as I like, then I'll not be changing or updating. Which still doesn't answer my question as to the layout of keyboards, on 'alternative's to a pc in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Idun, Ipads and iphones are standard no matter where you buy them, ... and the keyboard can be customised very easily (if I can do it, so can anybody!), I have the UK Qwerty as default, but it is very easy to "add" another (they are all stored in it), and you can switch from one to the other with a press of a key, as I do sometimes accidentally with the azerty board (and then I wonder why what I have typed does not make sense!!). As someone has already said ... they don't actually have "physical keyboards" just an "image" which springs up at a touch.One very useful thing I was shown .. in the qwerty layout, if you press and hold, eg e, all the accented "e"s are displayed above it, you slide you finger to the one you want, et voila, inserted in your text ...Might not make sense just like this, but once you see one in action, it becomes obviously pretty quickly just what I mean ... I have both, though neither were bought in France, it matters not if they were ... every ipad / iphone is constructed exactly the same, so hope that does answer you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneySuckleDreams Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 My PC has a QWERTZ keyboard... but you can change it to any language keyboard you want - just that the keys don't change - however I was thinking of physically swapping the Z and Y overAs for mePads and Android devices, you can switch to whatever language keyboard you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Shows you how to change to whatever keyboard you wish to have https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T_P_DyT6l8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 If you are looking to buy a tablet Idun then buy Android like a Samsung. No real difference in Ipads and Android machines except when it comes to installing software, listening to music or watching films. On Android devices music and film is copied directly from your computer to your Android device. With an Ipad or Iphone you need to copy your music to ITunes then from ITunes to the Ipad or Iphone. There are ways round this for the Ipad but then it takes longer to do than with an Android device. Reading existing books is another issue much like Itunes where again with Android devices you just copy them straight from your PC to the device and the reader software is free. Also don't be conned into the old myth about you can't hack an Ipad because it is not true. At the core the operating system is based on the Max OS X operating system which at its core is Unix which is basically what Android is as well. This means both can be hacked but it is less likely than having your PC hacked. There is software available to protect both a Ipad and an Android tablet.Software for Ipads tends to be more than Android software so if you want more from you device the cost of ownership of an Ipad is higher. According to Gartner the average ownership cost (excluding the hardware) of an Ipad is $354.76 as opposed to $31.72 for an android tablet over their life cycle (thats the time you own and use it). The reason being is that most of the stuff people use on Android devices is free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 Well I have learnt a few things and now I'll tell you why I asked.I watch french news most evenings and just before it starts there is often a public information few minutes and the other evening it was talking about have secure passwords. It said not to use 123456, or password (yes in english), or qwerty. I was wondering when and how most french people would even know about qwerty. It was a surprise to me when I first saw an azerty key board and never had imagined such a thing. And using the same idea, in the other sense, wouldn't it gêne french people seeing an alternative keyboard, never mind noticing that the top left line said 'qwerty'?Donc, I was wondering how they would know about, or even notice 'qwerty' to use it as a password.Maybe one day I shall buy something far more sophisticated than I have now, but until I really feel the need, then I won't.Interesting on Radio4 this morning talking about the desire to possess goods/things, and what a high it gives....... initially..... a quick fix, and then it soon wears off. Whether it be 'us' now or our ancestors. Made me think of someone I know in a new light, I hadn't realised that they were so addicted, the problem is that they look down on others who are not constantly keeping up with fashion, clothes, cars, home interiors....... so they probably look right 'down' at me....... funny old life innit[Www] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 One of the clients I had also required us to look at their security so I hired in a security specialist for a couple of weeks. I learnt a lot from her (yes folks, equal opportunities but more importantly one of the best in the UK) about passwords etc, some of which I already knew but a lot I didn't or rather not give much thought to.People use certain groups of keys, they could use QWERTY or AZERTY if French, the reason being is they are a line of keys, one after the other, simple to remember. Some use 'circular' groups like FRED or DERF and lets not forget peoples birthdays. Some people use their partners christian name and others use their surname. Some people never change the default password, for example Sage Accounting, last I knew, always had a default password of letmein and Novel Admin password was always administrator. A classic and more close to home are routers where in most cases, like Orange, have a password of admin and nobody bothers to change it, very easy to get into if you get a 'hard' connection Thats just a few but if you research 'most used passwords' you will surprised if not horrified at what people use.Here is a selection of the top 25123456password1234512345678qwerty1234567890baseballdragonfootball1234567monkeyletmeinabc123111111mustangaccessshadowmastermichaelsuperman696969123123batmantrustno1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Q, you did not mention the other favourite password "secret". It can lead to amusing cross office conversations along the lines of "whats your password?""its secret""Yes but what is it?"and so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 You can strengthen a plain text PW and make it not immune but certainly 100x safer from brute force attacks simply by preceding it with a non alpha numeric character such as !$@£€ etc. or using them in the body, whatever the particular system will accept.Substituting ! for 1 or I, or @ for A, or $ for S, for instance will make a PW all but impregnable for the simple reason that it will take hackers far too many hours or days to crack so they will move on to an easier one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 Which still has me wondering why a french public information broadcast would not say DO NOT USE AZERTY, still makes me wonder why they said qwerty, which even for me who touch types is an awkward word to type out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 [quote user="idun"]Which still has me wondering why a french public information broadcast would not say DO NOT USE AZERTY, still makes me wonder why they said qwerty, which even for me who touch types is an awkward word to type out.[/quote]Sorry I thought you got it. It is not a French list, they copied it and forgot to substitute qwerty with azerty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I had a bit of fun with this website yesterday:https://howsecureismypassword.net/I tried putting near variations of some of my passwords up and the answers ranged from 96 hours to billions of years! Not that I believe it, just found it fun.I use numbers and question marks, spaces and @ in my most important passwords, plus they are fairly long, but my husband laughs, as I forget the bank one every time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The problem with complicate passwords is that people have problems remembering them so they then write them down which is a security risk in Itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 There are 'non lethal' things that require a password like say this forum and there are other things that require a good strong password like things to do with money etc. Personally I use a common password for non lethal websites like this and other forums. If it gets broken it would be inconvenient but not the end of the world. For other stuff I use a password generator, something like https://identitysafe.norton.com/password-generator/ and store in an encrypted file on one of my devices. Yes I know that if anyone works out what the password is to the file they can see the lot but at least with Android devices you can wipe the data remotely if it's stolen and they need a password to turn the device on. The thing is there is no real save way to store all this stuff unless your Mr or Mrs 'memory' so all you can do is take the best precautions as you can.The thing is at the end of the day the most cost effected way of getting hold of your password is to use keyboard loggers delivered as a trojan to your computer and not logging out when you visit a website. Basically never tick the box that says "Keep me logged in". Oh and don't forget to change the password on your router at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Department71 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I have been known to use the registration number of cars I have owned, they are a mixed batch of numbers and letters with no logic. But for banks etc something stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The problem with complicate passwords is that people have problems remembering them so they then write them down which is a security risk in Itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 [quote user="Department71"]I have been known to use the registration number of cars I have owned, they are a mixed batch of numbers and letters with no logic. But for banks etc something stronger.[/quote]Your not the first [;-)] Because some people use their initials plus DOB it pays not to have a 'cherished' numberplate that you also use for your password. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 [quote user="Rabbie"]The problem with complicate passwords is that people have problems remembering them so they then write them down which is a security risk in Itself[/quote]An excellent product is https://lastpass.com/ which I have seen used in a few large companies (they use the Enterprise version). Some people worry that the passwords are stored online (all these products do) but the password is encrypted using a key on your computer before being sent and stored so the only computer that can acces them is yours. It's free, rather like the Norton one, but a much better product and easier to use. It is at least worth a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerdesal Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Up until a few years ago I used my RAF service number as a password, on the basis that I would never ever forget it ( no ex serviceman ever forgets his number ) and I thought it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, for any stranger to guess it or to find it anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh4 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 A couple of years ago, I did a quick tot up of the number of passwords that I needed - ranging from 4 numerical digit PINs for bank cards and SIM cards through to complex (more than 7 digits, must include three of capital, lower case, numeric and punctuation mark types).I came to 109 passwords - and I am certain I missed a few. I defy anyone to remember that number of passwords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 You're probably ok with that. The thing is that there is a myth that people spend hours, weeks even months trying to break into your bank account and nothing can be further from the truth. They have no idea how much you have in your account and to spend all this time and resourced to break in only to find you only have a couple of hundred quid in it makes it not worth their while. No, what they are after is the 'big one', the system or administrators password. From there they can get to every account. The most common if not the only way they get hold of your password is by sending you an email with a keyboard logger attached that reports back all the keys you press against the websites you visit. This is a very cost efficient way of doing things, millions of email address can be bought on DVD for as little as £10. With a couple of million email addresses you just need ten hits and all its cost you is a little time and £10. If you're really lucky you might find somebody who has a shed load of money although not likely. Don't forget that most if not all Internet fraud involving access to bank and credit cards is down to the user opening a trojan file or visiting a website they shouldn't. That does not of course mean you should be lackadaisical with your password. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 A handy way to generate and remember a reasonably secure password is to use the first letters of a relevant phrase. Thus " I Buy Books And Stuff From Amazon" - IBBASFA.This can be strengthened by using 2, 4, GR8 etc in place of words: "I Go To E Bay for Cheap Bargains - IG2EB4CB. Once used a few times it sticks. Well, it does for me, and no, they're not my passwords......Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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