cajal Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Given that France operates a strict 35 hour working week for its citizens/residents, how do the contestants and support staff participating in the annual event manage to circumnavigate these restrictive legislated rules? As far as I am aware a working week on the tour would include more than just the race hours but also travelling from one destination to another and also the pre and post race fitnes/training schedules.Today, as you will all know, is day 9.As an observation footballers hours, however, will struggle to even register on a working week scale compared to these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 The idea of a 35 hour week is very general, and is often used as a target for ridicule.In fact it is much more complicated than the crude picture often painted , and it depends on which 'branche' you work, and the 'convention' under which your contract was established.There are also various 'dérogations'...https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindal1000 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Self employed people work far more than 35 hours. As do most of my colleagues, who do most of their teaching planning in their own time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajal Posted July 9, 2017 Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 Thanks for the link NH.The get out clause is all laid out here:Durée maximale quotidienneLa durée de travail effectif ne doit pas dépasser la durée maximale de 10 heures par jour, sauf dérogations. Celles-ci sont accordées dans les cas suivants :à la demande de l'employeur, sous réserve de l'accord de l'inspecteur du travail,en cas d'urgence liée à un surcroît temporaire d'activité,si une convention ou un accord d'entreprise ou d'établissement (ou, à défaut, une convention ou un accord de branche) prévoit le dépassement de la durée de 10 heures, en cas d'activité accrue ou pour des motifs liés à l'organisation de l'entreprise, et dans la limite de 12 heures par jour de travail effectif.Durées maximales hebdomadairesLa durée de travail effectif hebdomadaire ne doit pas dépasser les deux limites suivantes :48 heures sur une même semaine,et 44 heures par semaine en moyenne sur une période de 12 semaines consécutives.Par exemple, si un salarié est amené à travailler 48 heures hebdomadaires pendant 6 semaines d'affilée, puis 40 heures les 6 semaines suivantes, il aura travaillé en moyenne 44 heures hebdomadaire sur la période de 12 semaines consécutives. Il ne dépasse donc pas les durées maximales hebdomadaires de travail autorisées.Par dérogation, la durée maximale sur une semaine peut être augmentée en cas de circonstances exceptionnelles, jusqu'à 60 heures maximum (sous réserve d'accord de l'inspection du travail).Le dépassement de la durée moyenne de 44 heures est possible, dans la limite de 46 heures sur une période de 12 semaines consécutives, dans les conditions suivantes :si une convention ou un accord d'entreprise ou d'établissement (ou, à défaut, une convention ou un accord de branche) le prévoit,à défaut de convention ou d'accord, après autorisation de l'inspection du travail.I also suspect sporting and other special events attract an automatic 'by' from the powers that be.As a side issue, I can't bring myself to watch re-runs of Richie Porte's unfortunate collision into Dan Martin. Horrific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Leaving aside any question of doping in the sport etc, I have to say how extraordinary I find the prowess of these cyclists.I have been over a few sections of the route in a car and that exhausted me; [:-))]and the couple of times I have seen them pass in town they hurtle along narrow badly-surfaced streets at an incredible rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 [quote user="NormanH"]Leaving aside any question of doping in the sport etc, I have to say how extraordinary I find the prowess of these cyclists.I have been over a few sections of the route in a car and that exhausted me; [:-))]and the couple of times I have seen them pass in town they hurtle along narrow badly-surfaced streets at an incradible rate.[/quote]One of the toughest sports going. The performance of these guys is simply incredible. On the Grand Tours they aren't just riding a one day, but back to back days. Quite fantastic speeds both uphill and downhill. Plus, if at all possible they get up and carry on riding after quite horrendous crashes. Tough, tough guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajal Posted July 9, 2017 Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 [quote user="NormanH"]Leaving aside any question of doping in the sport etc, I have to say how extraordinary I find the prowess of these cyclists.I have been over a few sections of the route in a car and that exhausted me; [:-))][/quote]In a car? Hey, I'm worn out whilst slouched on a settee watching them .[quote user="NormanH"]and the couple of times I have seen them pass in town they hurtle along narrow badly-surfaced streets at an incredible rate.[/quote]Yes, and the irony is that the stretch where Richie Porte had his unfortunate incident was that it was freshly laid black top. Damp and grease don't really cut it for a cyclist at any speed let alone downhill bends on the tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 What impressed me today was the way the the other riders made Fabio Arou slow down after he had taken unfair advantage of Chris Froome's mechanical breakdown.; a real code of ethics which is rare in sport these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajal Posted July 9, 2017 Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 [quote user="woolybanana"]What impressed me today was the way the the other riders made Fabio Arou slow down after he had taken unfair advantage of Chris Froome's mechanical breakdown.; a real code of ethics which is rare in sport these days.[/quote]+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Bobo, thank you for the rest day on the Tour as I can now do sensible stuff in the afternoons like shopping and cleaning without feeling bereft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddy Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I'm expecting it to whizz by here at about 3.20 tomorrow afternoon. I wonder if ALBF will be watching to see why those of us who live here love it so ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindal1000 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 The depart is from Eymet..ALBF's favourite Ville! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajal Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 [quote user="Hoddy"]I'm expecting it to whizz by here at about 3.20 tomorrow afternoon. I wonder if ALBF will be watching to see why those of us who live here love it so ?[/quote]Isn't he having trouble with his eyesight? It could well be a blurr and in that case he'll possibly mistake it for Hampshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddy Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Not Eymet - that is Wednesday. I'm sorry I had forgotten about ALBF's eyesight problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Eyeless in Gaza, brainless in Eyemet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 How beautiful the Dordogne looked today, delightful villages, clean and neat, clearly the pride of their owners. And Eymet particularly was a picture; it must be a treat to live there.Excellent crowds too, well behaved, plenty of the Union Jack crowd there. A nice easyish day tomorrow on paper but will someone launch a long range attack on CF?Then Thursday, the serious business begins again.The sofa awaits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddy Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 A beautiful piece of creative prose Wooly. It's a pity that they don't get to Eymet until tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Hahahahahaha, someone noticed; I was fishing with prose bait to see if I couldn't catch that old carp that is round here sometimes!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 An amazing stage with Chris Froome working miracles but will it have taken too much out of him even if tomorrow is a rest day.But so sad to hear the French crowd booing him. Why? Are they just so unsporting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 I can't believe after all the time you have lived in France Wooly that you are asking that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Just fishing,NQF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 [quote user="woolybanana"]Eyeless in Gaza, brainless in Eyemet![/quote]Brain-dead in Eymet, at the Mill with knavesBehold the EXPAT as he cheers and waves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 It is YOU, Norman!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericd Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 ...... But so sad to hear the French crowd booing him. Why? Are they just so unsporting?I agree ...... mind, he was in the middle of Bardet's territory but still, very disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 No need to feel embarrassed, Eric. It's like that too at Wimbledon: you should hear the way they clap and stamp their feet and cheer and do Mexican waves or whatever when Andy Murray's opponent serves a double fault[6]No bloody manners.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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