woolybanana Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 [quote user="AnOther"]Frankly I can't quite see how a ban on GPS warning devices can work. Firstly Sat Navs are so common now that the sheer numbers make it an impossible task to check everybody just because they are using one.Secondly most if not all Sat Navs can be PIN code protected so if switched off, something easily accomplished even during the process of being pulled over, how is a Gendarme going to prove that you have been using one with a warning device, a new offence of failing to switch it on when requested perhaps ?[/quote]Having the capacity to.... will be enough for the gendarmes, but it is difficult to see how they can enforce it with so many about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Simples - 'I have fogotton my PIN code Ossifer and I can't reset it until I get home and plug it into my 'puter, so I can't have been using it can I ?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 [quote user="woolybanana"][quote user="AnOther"]Frankly I can't quite see how a ban on GPS warning devices can work. Firstly Sat Navs are so common now that the sheer numbers make it an impossible task to check everybody just because they are using one.Secondly most if not all Sat Navs can be PIN code protected so if switched off, something easily accomplished even during the process of being pulled over, how is a Gendarme going to prove that you have been using one with a warning device, a new offence of failing to switch it on when requested perhaps ?[/quote]Having the capacity to.... will be enough for the gendarmes, but it is difficult to see how they can enforce it with so many about.[/quote]Easy enough - just book the ones you stop and get around to the others if/when you stop them. Surely that's the point of "stop and search"?John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Unless I've missed it I have seen nothing to suggest that mere possession of a camera database is to become illegal, just the use thereof, in which case just switch it off as you are being pulled, it's usually no more than a few keystrokes.The point I am making is that I think it will be a largely unenforcable measure which will quickly clog up the courts with appeals, especially with the excessively punitive nature of the proposed penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Aren't these devices already illegal in Germany and Switzerland? How do they cope? The certainly have SatNavs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sam Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Navigation devices are not illegal - just the software element (POI's) which indicate the location of fixed speed cameras and radar 'hot-spots'.Strangely enough, one of Europe's major manufacturers of both fixed in-car and portable devices, is German!Doesn't stop them providing speed camera software updates though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Part of the proposal has been dropped but I only caught part of it on the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Le monde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 [quote user="Salty Sam"]Navigation devices are not illegal - just the software element (POI's) which indicate the location of fixed speed cameras and radar 'hot-spots'. Strangely enough, one of Europe's major manufacturers of both fixed in-car and portable devices, is German! Doesn't stop them providing speed camera software updates though![/quote]Yes sorry Sam, I was unclear. I was trying to point out that although SatNavs are legal, those which show the position of speed cameras are not and yet they cope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I have no idea what other Sat Navs do but mine just tells me when I am approaching a camera or zone - not the position of it/them.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 The ones which show fixed cameras have been legal, but those which show the mobile ones never have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlitos Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 right now the speed cameras not have any reason to be working anymore because the sat navs informed you in advance about their presence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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