Gardener Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 May 9th and either I can't find it or have missed the annual debate about what exchange rate we should be using! So come on what is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Brown Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I'm still trying to figure out should I 8TK or not 8TK, my money is on ParsnipsAnyway to please you here's my penny worthOn the first of each month last year my pension was paid out atJan 1.18Feb 1.19Mar 1.18April 1.19May 1.21June 1.23July 1.23August 1.26 Cameron puts foot in it over Europe, downhill since Sept 1.25Oct 1.24Nov 1.23Dec 1.22Average 1.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardener Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 lovely thank you. I don't know your circs but if its any help if you get a governmental pension taxed in the UK, then you put it in 8TI according to the help notes for 2047 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Would be nice to have another Summer like that.As you know I am sure of the 1 AS + 8 TK route, because I asked my tax office last year and got confirmation.I suggest that anybody hesitating should do the same thing.I posted my letter (in workmanlike rather than elegant French) in the other threadI got the reply En effet la convention avec le Royaume-Uni a changé. C'est le système du crédit d'impôt qui est appliqué. Donc vos revenus sont à rajouter soit en pension ou en salaires et à la ligne 8TK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardener Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 Ah yes, I did the same last year and posted my email reply here too, (though I had put it into english) and I was told 8 TI ! I have in front of me the Guide Pratique du Contributable for this year and I'm just reading the note for 1as now, so i will get report back in a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 We have been discussing this here:http://services.completefrance.com/forums/completefrance/cs/forums/3/2908173/ShowPost.aspx#2908173 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardener Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 OK the notes for 1AS are quite long, and there is a section there that relates to Régime des fonctionnaires civils et militaires; but it doesnt' specifically mention pensions originating from abroad Onto the notes for 8TI Conventions internationales, fonctionnaires internationaux, travail à l'ètranger , lignes TI à TN it is as I have always done.I am happy to scan the relevant parts and post it if anyone wants to go with the book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardener Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 page relating to 1as and 8TI etc [IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/2i9rqxx.jpg[/IMG] I hope it will be readable, edit can someone make these links work please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 For some reason they won't open.Did you see this is the other thread?The official Notice for filling out the form is given herehttp://www.impots.gouv.fr/portal/deploiement/p1/fichedescriptiveformulaire_8310/fichedescriptiveformulaire_8310.pdf(It even contains a form which you can fill in for yourself to try to work out your tax liability and which I used as a base for my spreadsheet)It says clearly SOMMES À DÉCLARER CASES 1AS à 1DS– les sommes perçues au titre des retraites publiques ou privées ;– les rentes et pensions d’invalidité imposables, servies par lesorganismes de sécurité sociale ;– les rentes viagères à titre gratuit ;– les prestations de retraite (de source française ou étrangère)There is also this page:http://doc.impots.gouv.fr/aida/brochures_ir2012/ud_092.htmlLe montant du crédit d'impôt est égal au montant de l'impôt français correspondant aux revenus qui ont leur source hors de France.Le montant brut de ces revenus (y compris le montant de l'impôt payé à l'étranger) doit être déclaré sur l'imprimé 2047 et reporté sur la déclaration de revenus dans les rubriques correspondantes, en fonction de la nature des revenus.Le montant brut total de ces revenus doit, par ailleurs, être indiqué ligne 8TK de la déclaration 2042.Ces dispositions trouvent à s'appliquer à certains revenus provenant d'Afrique du Sud, d'Albanie, d'Algérie, d'Argentine, d'Allemagne, d'Autriche, d'Arménie, d'Azerbaïdjan, de Bahreïn, de Bolivie, du Botswana, de Bulgarie, du Cameroun, du Canada, du Chili, du Congo, de Corée du Sud, de Côte-d'Ivoire, de Croatie, des Émirats Arabes Unis, d'Espagne, d'Estonie, des États-Unis, d'Éthiopie, du Gabon, de Géorgie, du Ghana, de Guinée, d'Inde, d'lslande, d'Israël, d'ltalie, de la Jamaïque, du Japon, du Kazakhstan, du Kenya, du Koweït, de Lettonie, de Lybie, de Lituanie, de Malte, du Mexique, de Macédoine, de Mongolie, de Namibie, du Nigeria, de Norvège, d'Oman, d'Ouzbékistan, du Pakistan, du Qatar, du Royaume Uni, de Russie, de Saint-Martin, du Sénégal, de Slovénie, de Suède, de Suisse, de Syrie, de Taîwan, de la République Tchèque, d'Ukraine, du Venezuela, du Viêt Nam et du Zimbabwe.Vous devez indiquer le détail de ces revenus (identité du bénéficiaire, pays d'où ils proviennent, nature, montant brut et charges déductibles) en utilisant de préférence, le tableau no VI figurant à la 4e page de la déclaration 2047. À défaut, vous pouvez joindre à la 2042 une note explicative sur le même modèle que le tableau no VI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereford Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Our local tax office (Lower Normandy) has a notice in the window saying that the exchange rate to use for 2012 for pound to euro is 1.211. This is marginally (very marginally!) better than the average rate we got on our OAPs so we shall use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suein56 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I worked it out - as per ECB Bank's info - taking the rate from 02/01/2012 and from 31/12/2012 then dividing the answer by 2 and I arrived at 1.2112.So snap !Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecian Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Well, 1.21 seems to be 'the going rate', I was going to use 1.233 as per the ECB's website showing the average exchange rate for 2012. But yesterday I called in our local tax office, and the lady at the reception desk quoted me 1.21, so that was good enough for me, changed all my workings to use the exchange rate of 1.21 instead of 1.233. If my tax office is happy with 1.21 then so am I.[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Trellis Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 But the average paid for someone's pension isn't necessarily the actual exchange rate? Does anyone know what rate the tax office has recommended? 1.22 seems a bit high to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 As the text contains at least one advertisment it would probably be better to leave it....and let members copy and paste if they want to. It might also infringe the copyright condition of the Code of Conduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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