woolybanana Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 Bless![6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 RH, Tours in France, I would say Tu rh, never sound the S. There again where I used to live, we always sounded the X in Aix les Bains, not the S in Bains though. Always the X in Chamonix. And there were people with surnames which ended with Z and the Z was always sounded too. These montagnard had their own way with french. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 [quote user="woolybanana"]Bless![6][/quote]Grrrr.[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frecossais Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 How are you? I'm good. Hmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I'm glad you're good, Frecossais. I don't think I am particularly good but I AM very well [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 [quote user="Frecossais"]How are you? I'm good. Hmmmmm[/quote]I was trying not to mention that ![6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Rennes...without s.Reims...with s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 But Reims is Rance, nez pah.[;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Where do these esses come in anyway?Marseille, Lyon....with or without? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Place names are a law unto themselves, regardless of country, aren't they?The small town near us spelt Mamers is pronounced Mamerss, but Angers is Anjay.Trotiscliffe in Kent? Trossley.[:-))] Sweets, I really did think Marseille was spelt with an s on the end for years. I honestly can't remember where I picked that up. Here's another little irritation: "Literally", used to mean the exact opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Lyon has no S to start with. Only in english I think.Marseille. When there are two LL's together usually with an I in front, simplified the sound is a sort of 'ay' to replace the iLL's.So Marseille is Marse ay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Coops, "literally" is mild compared to "basically"[:'(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charly Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 ..."I would hate to think that anybody would keep their mouths shut, or not put fingers to keyboard, simply because they were afraid of being picked upon about their sentence construction, but I do think it's a shame that some seem to think it's unimportant at least to try. One person's point of view is just as valid as another's, but it is much easier for the articulate and literate to win an argument. That is why, imho, making an effort to write clear and understandable English is so important. Allowing the wrong-headed to win a dispute just because they are better at putting their point of view forward is a tragedy, thus it is in everybody's interest to attempt to express themselves well, whatever the medium...." Agree absolutely. And also.........as to keeping mouths shut..... I love accents and the way that this makes us all individuals. So, long live regional accents since for me it's WHAT you say that counts, not how you say it. The ancient BBC English when everyone wore formal dress to read the news, even the radio news, and spoke down to the listeners in the strangled tones of a "Mr Cholmondley-Warner" [8-)]- well, I'm glad to see the back of that. But every man woman and especially child, should be encouraged to speak and to write decent English whilst not being too anxious about spelling, since that's a knack and in my experience no indicator as to intelligence ! [geek] Isn't this why we have spellcheckers? [I] With that I am orf to mow the lorns and gitta bitta weedin dun befour the kids rock up fer the wekend, should of dun it earlyer, I reckun ![:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Have a pasti......................................................................................................................................................................................s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Charly, spellcheckers are as useful as bicycles to goldfish.It will pass "two" when you want to say "too" and all of that nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Spellcheckers!! not on duty today at France Bleu Poitou website!Irriguation interdite jusqu'au 1er juin.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charly Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote user="sweet 17"]Charly, spellcheckers are as useful as bicycles to goldfish.It will pass "two" when you want to say "too" and all of that nonsense.[/quote]Sweet 17, FYI spellcheckers are actually run by fish on bicycles who are possibly not given to wasting time telling you how to type "two" and "too". ( For that think you need a calculator anyway!) [;-)]If you ever have a moment and need a really good laugh, try the Babelfish translation site - also run by (less qualified )fish. Type out something in English and get it translated into French. So far, so just about understandable. Then translate that translation back into English. Hilarious. Some of the little gems that result could keep me amused for hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pommier Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 We bought a SatNav which has some interesting pronunciations for places in both France and the UK. Fougeres comes out as Fewjeress and Caen as Keen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frecossais Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Auxerre in Burgundy is commonly pronounced as Ausserre, but the first time I heard "Rhins" (???) pronounced by a French person, I had no idea where he meant until he clarified by saying "champagne". By the way, I see that Chalons sur Marne is now referred to as Chalons en Champagne. Well, there was talk over here about renaming Staines "Staines on Thames". No, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Do you mean Rheims, Frecossais?I do find place names very difficult. Just off the top of my head, Malestroit in Southern Brittany, Mansle in Charente, Montguyon in Charente Maritime are all pronounced not quite how you think it might be.You just have to ask a native![I]Edit: and I hardly ever dare ask for Laguoile (cheese and not knife) and I don't think I have spelt it right either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiseau Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote user="sweet 17"]Marseille, Lyon....with or without?[/quote]Without in French. With in English - though nowadays we go more with the French way.Same as Reims ("rhinss") French, and Rheims ("reems"), English.My French-Canadian sister-in-law got very steamed-up on first arrival in the UK about our pronounciation of Rheims - as well as, of course, "Mont-ree-all" and "Kweb-eck" - though had to back down when it was pointed out that even she did not refer to "London", "Roma" and "Firenze" in local pronunciation when she was speaking in French.Angela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 [:D]The french canadians, well, I don't really think that they have much to say about the way anyone else pronounces anything at all. So many asked if I was french, and they were being serious. No worse than the english speaking canadians who thought I was irish. I sound 'english' when I speak french, in spite of my efforts. And I sound northern english, when I speak english. Canada was not as I imagined it would be.[8-)]Sweet17, Laguoile can't remember seeing it, but there are so many french cheeses. I had to look it up and it said it was pronounced layole. I have trouble saying the town Laon in northern France and I can't say rust in french to save my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSKS Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 The French may not pronounce some of their place-names as spelt but they have nothing to compare with nonsense life Leicester (lester), Bicester (bister), Milngavie (mulguy), Slaithwaite (sl-ow-it) and hosts of others.I would concede that there are certain English place-names with weird pronunciations simply to make the locals feel better when they can laugh like throwbacks at the ignorant outsiders. But that's probably the only entertainment in such places! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex H Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 [quote user="Charly"]Isn't this why we have spellcheckers?[/quote]Eye have a spelling chequer,It came with my Pea Sea.It plane lee marks four my revueMiss Steaks I can knot sea.Eye strike the quays and type a whirredAnd weight four it two sayWeather eye am write oar wrongIt tells me straight a weigh.Eye ran this poem threw it,Your shore real glad two no.Its vary polished in its weigh.My chequer tolled me sew.A chequer is a bless thing,It freeze yew lodes of thyme.It helps me right all stiles of righting,And aides me when eye rime.Each frays come posed up on my screenEye trussed too bee a joule.The chequer pours o'er every wordTwo cheque sum spelling rule.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spell_checker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charly Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Fantastic! Top class spelling and grammar - are you a teacher by any chance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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