Frederick Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Methinks the churches message of "Love thy neighbour " may be wear a bit thin if the protesters decide stay for weeks . http://www.wikiminster.com/opinion/262-has-the-cathedral-drunk-from-the-poisoned-chalice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Glad I live here.The UK has gone to h... in a hand cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkkent Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 [quote user="Joe"]Glad I live here.The UK has gone to h... in a hand cart.[/quote]Why do you say that ... "gone to hell in a handcart"?What do you know about the incidence and nature of industrial action, political protest and civil unrest in France that makes that statement justifiable?I'm not suggesting that either country is necessarily more attractive than the other but I would be interested to know the basis for your judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Joe, what nonsense. Honestly a silly statement. Re St Pauls well judging by where it is they should take it from the ankers bonuses to replace the loss of income. I was listening to someone the other day,explaining why the crise wasn't the anker's fault, long time since I have heard such utter unadulterated tosh, but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 It is not a silly statement.First there were the riots and now the sit in.What next I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 When it comes to riots the French can teach everybody a thing or two. Just look at the burnt car count in Paris for a start ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyF Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 And the striking teachers and students and transport staff and....and.... Choose to live in France by all means, but to see only the bad in the UK and appear to ignore the bad in France seems a bit one-sided to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 [quote user="Joe"]It is not a silly statement.First there were the riots and now the sit in.What next I wonder?[/quote] Just as well that you live in France then.[Www] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 First there were riots then a sit in?And they were the same people? You really believe that? AND you believe that all is well in France. WOW, incredible. Re the people who are camping out, outside St Paul's, they are on church land, they cannot protest on private land in the city and they believe that it is the city who is doing as they please and running the country and goverment their puppets....... and they could be right. I don't blame them and I reckon that the people in St Paul's should grow up and get on with it instead of siting 'health and safety'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Early days for the St Pauls stalwarts in the minority.In greece 40% of the under 25 are jobless and those in southern europe with jobs are mostly "junk jobs" with minimum benefits and little future.http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/17/us-europe-junkjobs-idUSTRE79G4RJ20111017As the penny drops and the reality of zero growth and declining living standards are more widely perceived the numbers will inexorably grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 The problem I have with articles like this is that they are written very much along the line of "You think we have it bad here (in the US and the UK) but just take a look at places like Europe".The truth, if you go and look at different news sites worldwide on the Internet, is that the average rate of under 25's unemployment around the world is about 50% and rising. In the UK there is just over 1 million which represents about 45% of the total unemployed. In the US (the market this article is aimed at) over 54% of students can't get a job after finishing university and over 85% of them are forced to move back home when they finish uni because of debt and unemployment (source).The problem world wide is that supply has far outstripped demand. In the old days it was quite hard to get in to Uni and only the 'brightest' got to go but in Europe socialist governments have, through their belief in equality, equal standard of education for all and the necessity to keep unemployment low, have reduced standards for entrance in to universities and the quality of degrees the students obtain. What they have done is simply moved the time that these people become unemployed from leaving school to leaving university.The other issue of course is if or when the economy picks up it won't be graduates companies want it will be manual workers, the people that do the physical work like on assembly lines etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 It would appear that during the night the Police helicopter visited the site and the infra red camera showed only 20 sleeping bodies in the hundred or more tents .... protesters prefer their own beds it seems .... Time to redirect the homeless of London from the shop doorways into the empty tents I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 .............. or simply remove the tents that aren't occupied and make them available for collection in (say) Norwich.Sorry, I'm totally supportive of peaceful protest, but this one is so dumb:it doesn't hurt or inconvenience the people its aimed at (the Bankers - they couldn't care less)it does hurt and inconvenience others (the public and the C of E)as a result of (2) above, it alienates public support Empty tents overnight in a major public place constitutes a major security threat (some madman leaving a bomb) and a far greater risk than any 'health & safety' issue over somebody accidentally torching the canvas when warming up his baked bean supper.Somebody needs to take some firm action. Can you imagine how long you'd be allowed to leave a tent in the square in front of Notre Dame? You can't even leave a camper van overnight in the local car park around here! (Mark you, I hate camper vans, so maybe no bad thing[6]) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I rest my case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 " Violence in the name of the church " Canon submits his resignation .http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/oct/27/st-pauls-cathedral-canon-resigns?newsfeed=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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