Cut drink to avoid dementia

[Gardengirl]

I was reading an article on this subject this afternoon. The NHS's national clinical director for dementia in England, Professor Alistair Burns was saying that most studies suggested that drinking large amounts of alcohol increases the risk of dementia in later life.

He suggests that the new year is a perfect chance for us all to consider our lifestyles.

I love a few drinks, and must admit that in France my intake is bigger, as an awful lot of our socialising involves alcohol. I don't mean I get squiffy regularly, but I rather think one of my New Year's resolutions might involve cutting down a little.

[Chancer]

I have lived in sobriety for 3 years now, might even be four, the fact I dont know how long indicates that I stopped too late and the damage is already done [:D]

Its scary seeing merry people through sober eyes for the first time ever, of course there were times when I was the driver and didnt drink but its not like that, I dont know how long it took but after a certain while I really started to see others in a different light. Maybe its like being an ex smoker. 

I have certainly noticed a marked deterioration in the physical, if not mental health amongst my peers in their 50's, the way many are going I doubt they will see their retirement.

There but for the grace of god go I,  if my life hadn't changed I wonder whether I would even be aware of their decline?

[idun]

You may have noticed this gg, but I also noticed a couple of years ago that a glass of 'red' a day, may keep it away. I noticed, as I haven't really drank for years, I was never a drinker. I haven't changed my habits. I must say that dementia frightens me far more than a dickey ticker........ as that should go first.

Someone we know well, has just had a boat load of heart ops to find that the last thing wrong was dementia......... somehow, it feels like the surgeons should take 'everything' into consideration before cutting people up and keeping the pump running.

[minnie]

As well as keeping within the recommended units of alcohol a daily walk is suggested as a method of avoiding/delaying dementia as well as improving circulation. We walk almost every morning for about 5 to 6 kms, which takes about an hour. This is now incorporated into our daily routine. If the weather is inclement this walk takes place along the Canal Lateral.

[Quillan]

I am a great believer that these things are in your genes, you either have the wrong genes or you don't. The next step is a trigger, smoking perhaps for cancer as an example. My gran smoked 60 Capstan per day and was months short of her 100th birthday and up until the last couple of days 100% 'with it'. My MIL stopped smoking for 28 years, small cell cancer in her lungs did for her. Of course the hospital would say it as nothing to do with smoking because she had given up so many years previously, they would have a lot to lose if they said it was because she smoked 28 years before. Anyway how long you live is not the issue, it's what you do when you're here that counts because you never get another chance.

[PaulT]

Q wrote 'Anyway how long you live is not the issue, it's what you do when you're here that counts because you never get another chance.'

Choose the right religion and you get another go :)

[Gardengirl]

Better news! Food scientists at Reading University report that a glass of Champagne can reduce the risk of cardiovascular diseases. Despite its pale colour, Champagne (and English sparkling wines) includes red grapes rich in polyphenols - plant chemicals that dilate the blood vessels and improve circulation.

I enjoy a glass of red wine, mentioned by Idun as supposed to be good for health, and have drunk a glass of Champagne most days since my op earlier in the year, so my 'diet' isn't too bad!

On a more serious note, that's a very impressive thing you've done Chancer, and surely must have helped your future health.

[Quillan]

[quote user="gardengirl "]Better news! Food scientists at Reading University report that a glass of Champagne can reduce the risk of cardiovascular diseases. Despite its pale colour, Champagne (and English sparkling wines) includes red grapes rich in polyphenols - plant chemicals that dilate the blood vessels and improve circulation. I enjoy a glass of red wine, mentioned by Idun as supposed to be good for health, and have drunk a glass of Champagne most days since my op earlier in the year, so my 'diet' isn't too bad! On a more serious note, that's a very impressive thing you've done Chancer, and surely must have helped your future health.[/quote]

So linking two threads together if you use a Kindle in bed but drink a glass of Champagne at the same time you have nothing to worry about. [;-)]

[Judith]

[quote user="Quillan"]

So linking two threads together if you use a Kindle in bed but drink a glass of Champagne at the same time you have nothing to worry about. [;-)]

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So it's happy new year all round then!?

[Quillan]

[quote user="Judith"][quote user="Quillan"]

So linking two threads together if you use a Kindle in bed but drink a glass of Champagne at the same time you have nothing to worry about. [;-)]

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So it's happy new year all round then!?
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I wonder if Blanquette de Limoux works, I have just grabbed a bottle from the fridge and am off to bed to give it a try.

[Frederick]

Life owes me nothing. One clear morn

Is boon enough for being born;

And be ninety or ten,

No need for me to question when.

While Life is mine, I’ll find it good.

And greet each hour with gratitude.

Anonymous

[Judith]

Go on, Q. Tell us - did it work???

[Quillan]

Having consumed a whole bottle yes it did. [B]

[Russethouse]

[quote user="gardengirl "]Better news! Food scientists at Reading University report that a glass of Champagne can reduce the risk of cardiovascular diseases. Despite its pale colour, Champagne (and English sparkling wines) includes red grapes rich in polyphenols - plant chemicals that dilate the blood vessels and improve circulation. I enjoy a glass of red wine, mentioned by Idun as supposed to be good for health, and have drunk a glass of Champagne most days since my op earlier in the year, so my 'diet' isn't too bad! On a more serious note, that's a very impressive thing you've done Chancer, and surely must have helped your future health.[/quote] I met one of the leading experts in Alzheimer's a few years ago ( they collect the same pottery as I do ) and he recommends a glass of red a day.....

[Quillan]

[quote user="Russethouse"][quote user="gardengirl "]Better news! Food scientists at Reading University report that a glass of Champagne can reduce the risk of cardiovascular diseases. Despite its pale colour, Champagne (and English sparkling wines) includes red grapes rich in polyphenols - plant chemicals that dilate the blood vessels and improve circulation. I enjoy a glass of red wine, mentioned by Idun as supposed to be good for health, and have drunk a glass of Champagne most days since my op earlier in the year, so my 'diet' isn't too bad! On a more serious note, that's a very impressive thing you've done Chancer, and surely must have helped your future health.[/quote] I met one of the leading experts in Alzheimer's a few years ago ( they collect the same pottery as I do ) and he recommends a glass of red a day.....[/quote]

Thats handy Harry, one glass for my heart and now another to stop Alzheimer's. Can a wrangle a third glass from anywhere by claiming it's good for something? A good quality single malt is good for Asthma sufferers, no wonder I sleep so well. [;-)]

[idun]

Q, and there was me imagining that you were going to reply.......... 'I can't remember!'[Www]

[mint]

[quote user="idun"]Q, and there was me imagining that you were going to reply.......... 'I can't remember!'[Www]

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Ah, id, he didn't say that because he couldn't remember to say "I can't remember"[:P]

[crakpot]

[quote user="PaulT"]Q wrote 'Anyway how long you live is not the issue, it's what you do when you're here that counts because you never get another chance.'

Choose the right religion and you get another go :)[/quote]

What has religion got to do with drinking or dementia

more to the point whats the right religion if any

[idun]

Some religions believe that we come back, so I suppose it means that.

I have often read that some  spices help prevent dementia, curcuma? perhaps, or maybe cumin?

[Thibault]

I have noted recently that my local paper has one health scare story per day. These range from drinking, diet, exercise, old age, mental state, whether or not a person has suffered from something or other earlier in life etc.

Much of this stuff is based on tiny research activities at universities one has barely heard of and, of course, most of them contradict each other.

Therefore, I have resolved to read them, have a laugh and then promptly forget all about them.

[Quillan]

[quote user="Thibault"]I have noted recently that my local paper has one health scare story per day. These range from drinking, diet, exercise, old age, mental state, whether or not a person has suffered from something or other earlier in life etc. Much of this stuff is based on tiny research activities at universities one has barely heard of and, of course, most of them contradict each other. Therefore, I have resolved to read them, have a laugh and then promptly forget all about them.[/quote]

You mean like the latest informed research that cancer is just "bad luck"?

[Gluestick]

[quote user="Quillan"]

You mean like the latest informed research that cancer is just "bad luck"?[/quote]

I well remember 20 years ago being told, after a gastroscopy, by a gastroenterologist I was suffering from IBS..........

Looking him straight in the eye, I said:

"It worries me, Doctor, when I am informed I am suffering from some vague disease or illness which has the convenient word "Syndrome", included: since the corollary of what you told me, really, is I am suffering from something, yet in truth, you haven't much of clue either what it really is, or what causes it!"

He had the grace to agree.

At present, medical science seeks various culprits almost as scapegoats: however, clearly the peer reviewed scientific evidence concerning everyday chemicals in the home, garden, shed, garage, in food, make-up etc indicates a pretty clear and damning correlation, as since the mid 1930s when industrial chemistry really expanded until now, creates a graph overlay (relative to cancer incidences) which is pretty compelling.

The accelerated growth of the PetroChem industry is another villain: did you now, for example, that all the heavily advertised and damned expensive perfume and fragrance around is not natural, but synthesised from PetroChem products?

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[woolybanana]

Gluey, please stop blaming the scrapegoats (!) for all our problems; they are one of the most successful species on the planet, having a symbiotic relationship with Mankind, and owing their rise entirely to him. The more people on the planet, the more there are scrapegoats to blame for the problems this creates, the more scrapegoats, the more people to nurture and care for them!

The great thing is that they can change identity; imagine a scrapegoat that can turn into a badger.

I rest my case.

[Gardengirl]

More good news for the new year! I was reading my recent copy of Osteoporosis News and saw that resveratrol, known to help the heart and now dementia, is good for bones. As well as being in red wine, resveratrol is found in mulberries, cocoa powder and peanuts, and has anti-inflammatory properties helpful to bones.

Bone mineral density increased in a four month study of men; they took either a 500mg dose of resveratrol, a 75mg dose or a placebo twice a day. Longer studies involving more people need to be carried out in the future.

As I'm on medication for osteoporosis, it sounds as though red wine might be of help to me for that too - I'll have to check it out. Quillan, another reason for that third glass of red wine?

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[Gluestick]

[quote user="woolybanana"]Gluey, please stop blaming the scrapegoats (!) for all our problems; they are one of the most successful species on the planet, having a symbiotic relationship with Mankind, and owing their rise entirely to him. The more people on the planet, the more there are scrapegoats to blame for the problems this creates, the more scrapegoats, the more people to nurture and care for them!

The great thing is that they can change identity; imagine a scrapegoat that can turn into a badger.

I rest my case.[/quote]

Don't get me wrong, Wooly: I like scapegoat. However, I couldn't eat a whole one all to myself, mind.

Best cooked slowly, wrapped in tin foil, over a bonfire of vanities: lately, however, I've had great difficulty in purchasing decent dry vanities which are suitable.

[Www]