SaligoBay Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Jon Henley in ParisWednesday January 11, 2006The Guardian A French man has vowed to take his 20-year battle to freeze his dead parents to the European court of human rights. Rémy Martinot, the son of two cryopreservation enthusiasts who believed scientific progress might one day bring them back to life, said he refused to accept a ruling yesterday from France's highest legal authority, the council of state, that keeping his parents Monique (who died in 1984) and Raymond (who died in 2002) in a minus 65C vault in the family chateau near Saumur threatened public order and health. "I fail to understand how this practice is a threat," he said.Whadja reckon? Should the keeping of cadavers be encouraged on private property? Maybe one of those frozen food places could make a sideline of it, Picard's Preserved Parent Parts? Or is he just a spoiled rich boy with nothing better to do with his time? Actually, thinking about it too long is kinda spooky. Would you REALLY want to bring someone back from the dead? The genie in Aladdin was against it - "it's not nice and I don't like doing it"! [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 A sad man who can't move on, I am afraid. (Gosh that sounded harsh, but it was meant to be sympathetic). There's no hope in the resurrection from freezing (despite Walt Disney's hopes) but it puts off the inevitable parting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riff-Raff Element Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Also, I have a feeling that -65 C isn't cold enough to preserve tissuefor very long-term storage: I thought that it needed to be closer to-180 C. Presumably at the higher temperature the "specimens" would turnto mush in a couple of hundred years or so. I seem to remember thatthere was a company set up in London in the 1980's to freeze burnt-outyuppies for future resurrection (what WOULD our great, great, greatgrandchildren make of that rabble I wonder?), but I've no idea whetherit ever came to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-R Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Never seen the point of freezing the dead. Once frozen it would never be possilbe to re-animate the copse because of cell damaged caused be freezing. My wife is thinking of having here mothers ashes turned in a diamond, but now they will just have to stay in one on the guest bedrooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex H Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 For anyone who wants to try it..............http://www.cryonics.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamedup Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Cloning and cryogenics seem very strange notions to me. I don't want to live for ever. I don't want to be brought back at any future date and I don't want to be copied either.And yes, I reckon that if this bloke cannot do it right, for there are places in France where one can be frozen for the future for a price, then they should take his parents off him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I'm still getting over the guy who was apparently allowed to bury his mum under the stairs.Here's someone getting hot under the collar (groan) over 'serious abuses against the memory of the deceased' due to 'mistreatment of ashes' http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17586332-13762,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamedup Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 That doesn't surprise me, our neighbours Dad won't leave his native town to be nearer to his family unless he can find somewhere new to rebury his wife. He won't leave her alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmco Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Reminds me of a friend who took his father-in-law's ashes to sprinkle in the Solent while watching the Jubilee Review of the fleet: unfortunately celebrated too much too soon, missed the tide and grounded on the sand bar at the harbour mouth, urn fell over and spilt ashes, and wife insisted boat was now haunted and must be sold! Me, once I'm gone, they can do what they want with what's left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 [quote user="Philmco"]Reminds me of a friend who took his father-in-law's ashes to sprinkle in the Solent while watching the Jubilee Review of the fleet...... [/quote]My own fathers ashes went in the Solent too Philmco, after being taken on a boisterous trip to Portsmouth. They went to several old sea dog pubs/haunts, and HMS Victory, if I am to believe my brothers. This was after a year in the bottom of my mums wardrobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opas Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I wondered why Mr O was looking for a chest freezer, he said it was `cos Pork was on offer at Champion.Mrs O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaligoBay Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 He just wants to keep your chest?????Men! [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opas Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Do you think the ice will fill them up.?Mrs O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patmobile Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 [quote user="Tresco"][quote user="Philmco"]Reminds me of a friend who took his father-in-law's ashes to sprinkle in the Solent while watching the Jubilee Review of the fleet...... [/quote]My own fathers ashes went in the Solent too Philmco, after being taken on a boisterous trip to Portsmouth. They went to several old sea dog pubs/haunts, and HMS Victory, if I am to believe my brothers. This was after a year in the bottom of my mums wardrobe.[/quote]The Solent must be the most haunted bit of water in Europe. My dad's ashes, too, were consigned to the ebb tide near the Calshot light vessel (now replaced by a buoy) to ensure maximum dispersal throughout the east and west Solent.Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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