AnOther Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 This popular tool has been updated. It's still free and available HERE and now incorporates most major European languages too.[img]http://www.avisoft.co.uk/Accentype2/ToolbarSize8.gif[/img][img]http://www.avisoft.co.uk/Accentype2/Language.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Thank you, Erns. You're helpful as ever.Just one comment and I hope that someone "in the know" such as Clair will come and put me right.I thought that the French don't put accents in Capital Letters (Upper Case)?Can't remember where I got that from but I have it stuck there in my head for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 It seems optional sweet 17. I've seen capitals printed without any accents but I've also seen them printed where the height of the capital and it's accent is the same height as capitals without an accent.Ernie. What's this Microsoft Network Framework 3.5 that is also required with other than Vista windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 [quote user="Benjamin"]What's this Microsoft Network Framework 3.5 that is also required with other than Vista windows?[/quote]It's very likely that you already have a version of the .NET Framework installed as it's required for quite a lot of applications - have a look in your 'Add or Remove Programes' list.. v3.5 is a bit like a service pack for it. Google .NET Framework 3.5 if you're really interested in what it is but beware, it is deeply geeky ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Best own up to OH then. I've been pedantly telling him not to print everything (when he writes) because he can't put accents in.Thanks for pointing this out to me, Benjamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanb Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Concerning the question whether accents are written on capital letters in French: I've done some not-very-scientific research on direction signs and street names in the area where I live. For what it's worth, my conclusion is: sometimes they are, and sometimes they aren't. I thought it would be interesting to see whether the Académie Française makes any statement on the question. Indeed it does: Quant à l'utilisation des accents sur les majuscules, il est malheureusement manifeste que l'usage est flottant.I think that confirms the results of my research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Thanks, allanb, no more worrying about it then. Will just do it or not according to how I feel at the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 What is weird though is that if I write École as Ecole my spell check in Firefox indicates it as wrong and corrects it.If I do the same thing in Thunderbird, using the same dictionary as a base, Thunderbird indicates it as wrong, but won't give me any thing other than école.The version with the capital doesn't seem available in Thunderbird.Perhaps Clair will know how to write a capital É on a French keyboard.If I try I get a 2 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 [quote user="NormanH"]Perhaps Clair will know how to write a capital É on a French keyboard.[/quote]Using the numeric keypad on my laptop:Alt+0201=ÉAlt+0200=ÈAlt+0202=ÊAlt+0192=À Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I have posted that before, but just in case it helps...I use the Windows character table/table de caractères, found in the Accessories/System tools (Accessoires/Outils système) menu (or by using the search facility).A right-click on the program gives the option to "add to the quick-launch toolbar"/Ajouter à la barre de lancement rapide" and then it's just a click away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odile Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Avisoft runs on windows - and I have an AppleMac- so apparently not compatible. when I had a PC I knew all the alt+number by heart - but do not have numerical pad on laptop. Will try harder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert the InfoGipsy Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Easier version: Shift + Alt Gr + E = É -- dunno why but the acute seems to be the only accent with such a shortcut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert the InfoGipsy Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Have a look at these for Mac keyboard shortcuts.http://mac4translators.blogspot.com/2008/08/accented-letters-and-other-symbols-on.htmlI pinched this table from http://www.starr.net/is/type/kbh.htmlMacintosh (Some Mac keyboards now have an alt key instead of the option key. Note that I do not have a Mac computer so please help me stay updated.) TOPacuteá, é, íOption + e, the lettergraveè,à,ùOption + `, the letter tildeñ ÑOption + n, the letter circumflexê ÊOption + i, the letter umlautü ÜOption + u, the lettercedillaç ÇOption + c or C ¿Option + ? ß Option + s ¡ Option + 1 £Option + 3 §Option + 6 ºOption + 0 (zero) oe ligatureOption + q €Shift+Option+2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanb Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Albert the IG: the character codes you mention must be specific to one national version of the Mac keyboard - they don't all work on mine, which has a non-British layout.However, if all else fails: in most programs that run on a Mac you can always use the Character Palette, which pops up when you hit Option+Cmd+t. It's a bit cumbersome, but it offers you a huge range of characters and other symbols, in a huge range of fonts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Accents could not be used on capital letters in the past because of the limitations of typewriters and legibility on typeface, the rule still stands, sensibly in my opinion but is regularly flouted, it makes road signs much harder to read in less than perfect conditions when accents are used above reduced height capitals.Oh and they dont appear on my AZERTY keyboard so to me they shouldnt be used even if they can be found by character codes.EdittedI just replied to a posting by Âmes and discovered that I can indeed put accents on capital vowels [:'(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanb Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 [quote user="JR-apostrophe-S gone native"]Oh and they dont appear on my AZERTY keyboard so to me they shouldnt be used even if they can be found by character codes.[/quote]If you will allow a personal question: since you don't use apostrophes in ordinary English, why do you insist on including one in your user name? It always produces the message "non matching quote blocks in post" - at least, it does on my browser; I don't suppose I'm the only one. Let's get your apostrophes sorted out and then we can talk about accents.Only a suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pads Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Does anyone have the link to the lexicon french keys ... I had it before but lost while changing computers ... its the one that gives you a little bar with them on , that you can just click Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 [quote user="Pads"]Does anyone have the link to the lexicon french keys ... I had it before but lost while changing computers ... its the one that gives you a little bar with them on , that you can just click Many thanks [/quote]Is this the one you want pads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pads Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Thanks yes it is , but last time it downloaded it on to my desktop, it wont do it this time , just brings it up and then dissappears when Im finished with it ... any ideas ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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