chris pp Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Having my train of thought redirected by CH's question about clock movements, I thought I'd show you this, it's old, and made of bronzed spelter on a marble plinth. Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassis Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Is it a trophy you won as a lad, ChrisPP? You don't look old enough for brylcreem (first time of popularity) and hobnail football boots!It has a lovely patina - congrats for not polishing it off.I read about your clockmaking/repairing skills on the other thread - I wonder if there are any more hidden talents kicking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 [quote user="Cassis"] It has a lovely patina - congrats for not polishing it off.[/quote]It looks like really good detail too, which is sometimes absent with spelter. Very nice indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris pp Posted October 24, 2006 Author Share Posted October 24, 2006 Loads of hidden talents but I don't want to spoil you all by giving you the whole show at once.[;-)]Didn't know that you are a football fan Tresco.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 [quote user="chris pp"]Didn't know that you are a football fan Tresco.[/quote]Yes, but more and more like a pathetic girl. It's harder to keep up with English football without English channels.I got closely questioned by the offspring recently as to the latest team news, buys and other developments (re: the team everyone else loves to hate) and was found very wanting. The figure you posted looks very '30s to me. Do you know if it represents anyone?I can't see the the amount of work that's gone into it (and the price, as I doubt they were cheap when they were produced) being justified by a 'generic' figure. For me it has to be 'someone' that many people would have bought the figure of. Where's Miki when you need him?Edit: Looking again, I wonder if Cassis is right about it being a Trophy. The size would tell me something. The base doesn't look original, somehow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris pp Posted October 24, 2006 Author Share Posted October 24, 2006 Now bear in mind I know next to nothing about football history, but I'm 99.9% certain that the base is original, remember my past, I usually know what I'm looking at.[:D]Trophy? No, I don't think so, more likely a "fashion" at a certain period when football was in vogue in France, or maybe when France hosted a sporting occasion. Date is a bit difficult, but I would think pre 2nd world war, but maybe not as old as some may think, France continued with old methods and materials for much longer than other European Countries, Stone buildings were still being constructed into the 1950's.Your right, Tresco, where's Miki?Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Being grumpy. Apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 [quote user="Dotty Trois"]Being grumpy. Apparently.[/quote] That doesn't usually stop him posting - where is the lad? I'm sure he'd have something to say about the toe-punt the bronze geezer is perpetrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I reckon 1929-39, judging by the base and the styling of the shorts!!!Chris, is it about 7/8 inches high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Tresco,I have just sent you a pm.Kind regards,David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris pp Posted October 24, 2006 Author Share Posted October 24, 2006 Chris, is it about 7/8 inches high?You still using pounds, shillings and pence as well, Tresco?? Inches??? I'm in France, we have Euros and centimetres.[8-)]To answer your question, No, it's about 12 inches high, that's about 32 centimetres for the continental members of the forum. Needless to say, I think it's rather nice as an item which clearly represents its time, whenever that was exactly.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 LOL, I'm asking daft questions. And I still think in inches.It's just that figures like that were made in certain numbers at certain heights. I've been searching my books for him. Not found him but that means nowt.He's a nice figure. I'd have him any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEO Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 [quote user="Tresco"]I reckon 1929-39, judging by the base and the styling of the shorts!!!Chris, is it about 7/8 inches high?[/quote]Those dates would tie in with the first "WorldCup" which was played in 1930 in South AmericaLeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 [quote user="Tresco"]LOL, I'm asking daft questions. [/quote]Here's another. Are his elbows/back/bottom in line with the right hand side edge of the base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Sorry for being a little late. I don't normally look in on all the categories.Well in my werry 'umble opinion, I would hazard a guess as to sayit isa keepsake trophy for a team winning a cup tournament or league andthat a plate stating the cup or league etc, would normally be on thefront edge of the marble. There are of course momentos that can bebought, it could be one I suppose but it just seems to look and fit, into the category of an award. It would appear to be continental by theshirt alone. And looking at the shorts, they were worn much longerin the UK than the pair on the player. Short sleeves were certainly nottoo au fait in the UK and the feelis of France/Spain or Italy perhaps. Age, difficult as that kind of kitwas worn right up to the late 50's, then of course for one thing, theboots changed to lose the toe cap and slimmed down in height, as wellas losing the knock in leather studs!! Then again, most trophiesof that nature, even today will be imported, so the player and stylewould be of the local type and so one like this, could well end up inthe UK as a prize.It is indeed a very handsome trophy and the recipient must have been over the moon (a litle soccer cliché just seemed apt [;-)] In the mid 80's, whilst in charge (sadly, not playing then !) of arepresentative side in Belgium, we won the tournament for the 3rd time,and won outright, the most excellent looking trophy, one of the best Ihad even seen in my days of soccer. It was called the Euroman trophyand in fact one chap, who used to post (might still do ?) on here, knewthe University ground, where the tournament was played on annually. IfI can get a picture I will, I was also lucky enough to be given a quitewonderful medal in a case each time from King Bedouin (not personallymind you !)...sorry getting a bit egoistic then...apologies.Dotty, gotta ask, grumpy.... moi..? Where and when and what woz it abart dear Dotty [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassis Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 [quote user="Tresco"][quote user="Tresco"]LOL, I'm asking daft questions. [/quote]Here's another. Are his elbows/back/bottom in line with the right hand side edge of the base?[/quote]Are you suggesting this handsome fellow is a bookend, Tresco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Yes Cassis, that's my best shot.[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 [quote] Yes Cassis, that's my best shot [/quote]In the stands surely Tresco...... All that for a blinkin' bookend [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 [quote user="Miki"] All that for a blinkin' bookend [;-)][/quote]You've got no room to talk!All that 'the stitching changed in 1922 with the introduction of .5 of a millemetre spacing enabling bla de bal de bla' [:P][:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 1923 actually and 0 .7 mm..............[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 [quote user="Miki"]1923 actually and 0 .7 mm..............[:)][/quote]Attention to detail. I've always liked that in a pedant...sorry, man.[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
united Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hi Tresco,I've just read your earlier post saying you find it hard to keep up with all the news on football teams, transfers etc.I find that http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/default.stm keeps me pretty much upto date. In the gossip part it is interesting to read how different newspapers give diametrically opposed reports on the same transfer or topic. Hope it gives you increased cred! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 [quote user="Tresco"][quote user="Miki"]1923 actually and 0 .7 mm..............[:)][/quote]Attention to detail. I've always liked that in a pedant...sorry, man.[:D][/quote]Glad to hear it......there's enough duff info on forums (not Damien either [:)] ) I am now informed it is actually 1923¼ and 0.66666mm....now that really is pedant...sorry, manly [;-)]If Chris now turns it upside down and it says Made in China.....then....................[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris pp Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 Nope, not made in China and no sign of there ever having been any plaque or anything else on the base. His right elbow is not far of being in line with the base, but only his right elbow, and having just had a good look, it is good quality for spelter and I assume that the finish is "cold painted" to give it the bronze effect.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I still think he's a lonely bookend.[:)]http://www.libertys.com/li0/lib0494.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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