woolybanana (ex tag) Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Does anyone know anything about the French organ donor system. Do they have cards and how does one get them for example? Or are British organs not accepted in France, do they have to be in French? I imagine British organs must be much in demand.Be grateful for advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 The brackets in your name don't let me quote you woolyb. I was going to say: [:D]This is a great idea - I'm sure you could start a "Sell or Swap" section on some ex-pat forum somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 You might have a point about British organs in France, as they already refuse blood donation...This is the main site in France: http://www.france-adot.org/ and there is a branch in each département.This si where to request a donor card: http://www.france-adot.org/demande-carte-donneur.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 [quote user="cooperlola"]The brackets in your name don't let me quote you woolyb. I was going to say: [:D]This is a great idea - I'm sure you could start a "Sell or Swap" section on some ex-pat forum somewhere.[/quote]You mean like parts?[;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 [quote user="Clair"][quote user="cooperlola"]The brackets in your name don't let me quote you woolyb. I was going to say: [:D]This is a great idea - I'm sure you could start a "Sell or Swap" section on some ex-pat forum somewhere.[/quote]You mean like parts?[;-)][/quote]This just appealed to my sick sense of humour. I could imagine tag's scenario "I need a heart transplant but don't want to be given a French heart by mistake.... Do you know of any genuine, card-carrying Brit who'd be willing to let me have theirs?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana (ex tag) Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Well yes, but can I say who I want which bits to go to or not. My heart not to a Parisian for example;Imagine the scenario where the patient's family actually refuse an organ because it is British. Rie up Monty Python. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I remember reading something a couple of years ago about a family insisting they would only agree to their dead son's or daughter's organs being used if the hospital could guarantee they would be used for a white person only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana (ex tag) Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 I will give away some personal info here. I am of mixed North African and Jewish parentage (its a long story). Reckon my organs is for the bin? Would you have them, let your daughter have them? Clair, as our tame French person though very nice with it, do you think they will find a way of saying no for that reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 You'd have to be just French enough!Your mixed parentage has no bearing in it, it's just that you write in English, that alone is suspect! What if the recipient is a staunch socialist? your heart could turn him ( I assume you would say "Not to a woman!") into a free market loving anglo-saxon!The shame, the shaaame!!! [:'(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetley Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 My sister in law had to have a liver transplant 16 years ago, after liver failure (she was only 21 at the time). And trust me, when you are in that situation, you become very selfish and desperate ........ although it enables a loved one of yours to live, you are very, very aware that another family's loved one has died. PS: I can appreciate the humour in the jokes.....I am not preaching!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana (ex tag) Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 You have to laugh you know otherwise you cry or die a little.Actually the situation as regards international organ donation is a complex one and our discussion is very superficial necessarily. I already have the information I wanted from the charming and delightfully lovable Clair who pulls my posts without a qualm. The rest is awareness building and a little fun.I hope however your sister in law is managing ok, even running marathons. Takes guts to go through a major transplant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetley Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 [;-)] she is fine....even went on to have a baby. Amazing how much things in the world of transplants has changed over the years though.You are right.....awareness and having a little fun is the key! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Dordogne Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 In the UK I wanted to carry a donor card but because of my rather odd blood condition and because of the long term effect of medication, the medics said no.So decided in the end to leave my corpse to medical science so that student doctors can have a rummage round and see what unusual things happen inside people.Many years ago, when I was first diagnosed, the treatment was being bled, pint at a time - I used to take the blood that wasn't being used for research home, mix it with soil and then dig it into the garden - great round the roses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val_2 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 YOU CAN be an organ and bone marrow donor here in France, me and my family have just allsigned up with www.france-adot.org when they had a stand recently in our local Super U. It does not matter about being foreign, blood donation is different and only those who did NOT live for more than ten years in the UK before 1996 are accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Thanks for that Val.I did feel slightly peeved when they refused my generous offer to donate blood (a rare-ish B neg), so it's good to know my organs could be used to help someone in need. [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patf Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Tag - sorry to change direction of your thread but I thought you would comment on the recent proposal in UK that it should be a person's responsibility to opt out of organ donation rather than opt in. ie all dead bodies would be available for donation unless the owner had said no in their lifetime. I can't see this becoming law somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val_2 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 One of the reasons why I have always carried donor cards is that I have an abhorrent fear of being declared dead but not actually being so. It stemmed from watching a horrendous horror film in my youth where a woman who suffered from a rare syndrome was declared dead and therefore buried,but she wasn't and her syndrome caused very shallow breathing. At least they will make sure you are gone before taking the bits that are needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 The answer Val is to have a coffin built as they did many years ago with a bell on the top....and state that you are not to be put in the ground for a couple of days should you "wake " then you pull the clapper string that is tied to you hand then you will have been "saved by the bell " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 I think that advent of embalming has largely eradicated that danger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana (ex tag) Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 I am seriously divided by this one. On one hand we need organs so to speak, on the other the idea that Parliament can simply say you have no rights over your body when you die seems awful. Need to think a bit further but I suspect my instincts are against unfortunately. Maybe there is another way.[8-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Imitate the actions of the Klingons - when the spirit has departed the husk is but trash, dispose of it as you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana (ex tag) Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 How can I if I have already departed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Don't be obtuse. The relicts dispose of the remains as they see fit, with no circumstance or obsequies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 I think the Spartans may have acted in similar vein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sam Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 [quote user="Dick Smith"]I think that advent of embalming has largely eradicated that danger...[/quote]Unless your wish is to be buried at sea! You can't be if you've been embalmed, so if your not quite gone - you drown!!![:(]Lifes a b***h and then you die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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