NormanH Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I am thinking of buying one of the larger models, some thing like this, although not necessarily this model [IMG]http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh80/bfb_album/habillage_scooter-electrique_1.jpg[/IMG]Looking through the ads it seems that this is yet another thing that is far cheaper in the UK, even given the price of delivery ( I have been quoted about £250) I see almost none of these here, only electric wheelchairs, and I was wondering about the regulations for use.I have googled this:Formalités de base pour utiliser un scooter électriqueToute personne qui circule en scooter électrique, quelle qu'en soit lapuissance, doit :faire immatriculer ce véhicule à la Préfecture ;porter sur lui la carte grise correspondance ;souscrire une assurance obligatoire et la coller sur son véhicule ;porter un casquerespecter le Code de la route.And I wonder if this applies to disability scooters,(especially " porter un casque")or only to the sort of electric 2 wheeler, especially as the same article also quotes:Réglementation des 50 cm3 ou moins (catégorie L1e pour la Communauté européenne)Réglementation des 125 cm3 Puissance Jusqu'à 4 000 watts Au-delà de 4 000 watts Formalités Permis B ouPour les non titulaires du permis de conduire (permis B), il faut passer leBrevet de Sécurité Routière (BSR) sauf pour les personnes nées avant le 01/01/1988 Permis A, A1 ou permis B (obtenu depuis plus de deux ans et avant le 1er janvier2007) - article R-221-8 du Code de laRouteLes personnes titulaires d'un permis B après le 30 décembre 2006 doivent s'acquitter d'une formation de 3 heures pour avoir le droit de conduire un 125cm3 - décret n°2006-1811 du 23 décembre 2006 Age Dès 14 ans Dès 16 ans Référence Article R211-2 du code de la route ArticleR-221-8 du Code de la RouteHas anybody any experience with this sort of vehicle, and can they also be used in pedestrian streets/ shopping centres etc, or do I need something smaller for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Talk to an ergo', Norman. Mine is a mine of info' on these topics. You can also get state help for mobility aids (I've had some info on battery powered wheelchairs which quotes the state contribution.)I know loads of people with electric wheelchairs (some of which are quite fast!!) and I've never seen one with plates, nor anybody wearing a helmet to ride one. OK scooters are a bit different but not very. A propos of nothing really - in the UK if you are involved in an accident it is always considered the responsibility of the scooter owner so some sort of 3rd party cover is advisable there, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I found the following pages which sum up the various issues (there were quite a few other pages that seem to back this up: these pages seem to be the best summary I found)http://scooter-electrique.comprendrechoisir.com/comprendre/scooter-electrique-essentielhttp://scooter-electrique.comprendrechoisir.com/comprendre/scooter-electrique-mobilite-reduite-assurancehttp://scooter-electrique.comprendrechoisir.com/comprendre/scooter-electrique-mobilite-reduite-reglementationhttp://scooter-electrique.comprendrechoisir.com/comprendre/scooter-electrique-mobilite-reduite-securiteWhat you were looking at really refers to 2-wheel scooters.As far as I can see, you do NOT need to register 4-wheel scooters which are restricted to low speeds (as opposed, eg to quad bikes)You DO need insuranceYou DON'T need a flourescent giletThe rules for driving the lower-powered scooters are those for electric wheelchairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Incidentally, I did a google search on Scooter electrique "4 roues"which brought up quite a lot of these types of thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Excellent! Just what I needed.Thanks a lot [:)]Scooter électrique : une circulation réglementéeL'utilisateur du scooter y est considéré comme étant l'égal du piéton. Il peut donc circuler sur le trottoir mais en respectant les règles suivantes : rouler au pas (6km/h maximum) ;possibilité de rouler sur les accotements ou sur le bord droit de la chaussée dans le sens de la marche.Pour une circulation sur la route, il faut respecter le Code de la route, mais il n'est pas nécessaire d'avoir son permis de conduire. La vitesse ne doit pas excéder 26 km/h. [:-))][:)]Scooter électrique : assurer votre responsabilité civileL'obligation de vous assurer est liée aux dégâts physiques ou matériels que vous pourriez faire subir à un tiers.Lorsque vous achetez un scooter électrique, il faut contacter au plus vite votre assureur. Celui-ci vous proposera un contrat adapté. L'assurance de votre scooter peut dans certains cas être couverte par la garantie « responsabilité civile » de votre multirisques habitation.Étudiez bien les garanties proposées par votre compagnie d'assurance (ce qui est couvert et ce qui ne l'est pas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 With my dobbins I'm covered third party under my house insurance but have to declare them. I'm just talking the scooter over at the mo' and I imagine it will be similar. Given how little one gets in this country when somebody else cripples you for life I imagine it shouldn't cost much even if it is extra......[;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave21478 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I will leave this here....video[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 I don't know what he is on but I want some... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 I sent this mail to 7 firms in the UK on Friday.Either they have all gone bust, or they are doing too well to need mybusiness, since not one has answered:[:@] I am looking for a mobility scooter capable of carrying me and my shopping.I am quite heavy (120 kgs) and handicapped following two minor strokesas far as walking any distance is concerned, although inside the houseI can get around with walking sticks.I needPowerful 8-13 kmh 4 wheel scooter preferably with range 40-50km,equipped with:Front and rear lights, indicators, hazard flashers.Horn and hand brake.Shopping Basket (preferably front and rear if compatible with a stickholder, or a soft shopping bag )Left hand side rear mirrorDouble Walking Stick / Crutch Holderthe appropriate battery charger, and possibly an easily moveable ramp(there is a 4 inch drop from my garage door which opens directly ontothe street)I would like an all-inclusive price including delivery to France.Some models I have seen, and prices I have noted: (here I gave 4 example of the sort of scooter I am looking for) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I had the same problem.These people, however, are helpful and supply nearly all the makes with full specs on their website. They advertise worldwide delivery.http://www.factoryoutletscooters.co.uk/index.phpYou need to look at "luxury, 4 wheeled" for the spec you want.Courage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Forgot. Pride have a French office:http://www.pridemobility.com/international/France/France.aspVictory XL ticks most of your boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 I had seen them but there is no email address.The silly little window that opens when you click on 'contact us' refused to accept the message above, so I sent a message saying that as I can't send an email, surely a basic tool of any business, I couldn't place an order.That was on Saturday and no reply either..A pity since I was very interested by a couple of their offers. (http://www.factoryoutletscooters.co.uk/shoprider_cordoba.php and http://www.factoryoutletscooters.co.uk/pride_celebrity_x_sport.php)Still I am sure they can thrive without my patronage [:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 If you click on the "request more info" within the model description then a dialogue box pops up - that might work better.Re Pride : Try their office in Holland if France no good (that's their main European outlet anyway) - the prices and service might be better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Thanks for your patience [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 [quote user="NormanH"]Thanks for your patience [:D][/quote]One develops it this side of the channel, does one not?[:P][:-))] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 And with Normie!Can't you have something safer looking than that pram wheels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I was wondering if you can cut the grass with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Towing a mower you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 No, cutting the grass with it and towing a barrel ! [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 I fell for that one [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Sorry, my warped sense of humour. [8-|] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote user="Christine Animal"]I was wondering if you can cut the grass with it. [/quote]Then they could make a FILM ABOUT IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 You might want to have a look here before making your final choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 What sign should we suggest that Norman has to attach to the rear of the bike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Short Vehicle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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