dr orloff

That's the point really - I have examined my forms online and I know that the system didn't transfer the amount across.  The instructions were part of the declaration process and as that is now ended they are no longer available. So whether the system was designed to operate in a 'manual' fashion or whether totals and transpositions were supposed to have been automated but failed for this particular box TI, I cannot prove.  Logic would suggest the latter as anybody who can use Excel at a basic level could design an automated suite of forms. Ah, but this is France - processes are supposed to be convoluted and problematic.    

wrt just point1) I never said that it was hard evidence - that's why I have been asking if others can remember.  I have been trying to establish how the system was designed to work.  If it was designed to require duplicate manual entries then it is a pretty poor system. Although I believe there is a bug I have never definitely concluded this. I have tried to find the instructions but the declaration process is closed, so I cannot revisit them and confirm my recall, or otherwise.     

I sent you a PM too.

I don't see it as a difficulty, more an inconvenience.  It's just I'd like to point out to the Tax Office that their systems aren't working properly.

Jotty - I am British and I agree with you that there is a bug in the system.  I think I remember that the instructions for the online declarations state that competing an annexe form, such as 2047, updates the 2042.  And I am sure that the entry on my return for bank interest did just that, whereas for the rent figure it did not.  On my book that's a bug.  I should have double checked the system afterwards rather than relied upon it to work properly - after all I have been in France a few years so I should know better.  But the instructions are not available now and so I can't be 100% sure.   I'll know better for next year but the meantime I'll have to deal with the tax office and my experience of the french is that they just don't accept that you're in the right.    

Rambo 4 is a good movie and There Will Be Blood is boring !!!! My taste is polar opposite but if you liked The Departed I can recommend the far superior original film from Hong Kong - Infernal Affairs.

What I would like to establish is whether the online declaration system is designed to work like that - ie: you must complete the same box on forms 2047 and 2042 individually, or if there is a bug and the system is not working as it should by updating form 2042 with the input from 2047.  I rather think the latter.        

I am struggling to remember.  I think that the instructions for filling in on-line declarations stated that filling in a box on an ancillary form such as the 2047 automatically populated the main declaration 2042.  Am I right?    

2+2=5

And check that the stove is of sufficient efficiency to qualify for the credit - 'flamme verte' marked.   Must be the main residence - therefore by implication cannot apply to a non-resident, even though they may need to complete a french tax form.  

I disagree on your opening gambit - see point 19.

I think that if you added up all the televised sport it would actually constitute a small proportion of total free broadcasting.  Surely stage musicals belong on the stage though.   

There are a few threads on this and other forums dealing with this subject - showing you exactly how to declare the income on your French tax return. Just to add to the above comment - there are no social charges in France on your UK rental income.    

Well apologies folks.  I have extrapolated incorrectly from my househunting days five years ago.  I remember looking at web details of cheap as chips little cottages in Finisterre.  However, on the forecasts that little area always seemed several degrees cooler than elsewhere (although mild in Winter) with little rain clouds above it.  I imagined the kind of misty landscapes that zombies appeared from in early Romero's. Prices in our area were cheap too then.  Land prices have risen a lot, but plots cost nowhere near those prices. Staggering.      

The west coast of Brittany is quite cheap as far as I can see - but the weather forecast has always put me off. We live in the Limousin in the centre, nowhere near the sea.  I lived by the sea in the UK for most of my life and it is something I miss - but this is a beautiful area of lakes and rivers, which is some compensation.  It is still one of the cheapest areas with a good selection of old stone houses to do up.  Cookie, if you could forego your bucket and spade then let me know - there is a lot we could do to help.  

You need more practice.

It's a once in every four years showcase for many, many 'minor' sports besides athletics that otherwise are given very little exposure on TV.  What are you going to miss on TV for a fortnight that makes you so frustrated?  I think it has always been about the host country showing off, likewise the importance of the medal tables.  But I don't think either has become more and more important.  In fact I think quite the contrary.  I don't think the 1936 games will ever be surpassed as an attempt to show off.  And medals are spread wider now than, for example, when East German athletes won most of them.  And I don't think you can accuse the BBC of much of a national bias in their coverage - they're very good with their coverage of other nationalities. The Olympics will always be used for political ends and it will always have its controversies, but for every Ben Johnson there are hundreds and hundreds more who fulfil lifelong ambitions just to compete in something they love doing.  There are a lot worse ambitions to have and there is a lot less worthwhile to watch on telly.

Given that complete rubbish like Eastenders and Coronation Street occupies virtually every night of the TV schedules why do people moan when a bit of sport comes on?

We have the wonkiest old chevrons you can imagine.  We used the metal rail system -  it's very straightforward even though we had no prior experience.  It's also much cheaper than replacing all your chevrons.

Yes it was.  In that instance I can see both points of view.  And the complaint was dealt with by publishing the reply.  Seems fair.  In this instance, however, I really sympathise with the OP (based on what has been posted here).  I really think the reply to the lack of planning enquiry is a dereliction of reponsibility - probably not from a contractual viewpoint, but from a professional and sheer human decency persepective.  I don't know who the company in this instance is but as the journalist has an interest in companies of this nature then I would personally speak with them, especially as has been pointed out, there may be no recourse to a regulator.   And it is clearly, as a means of getting a straight answer, very effective forensically. 

None of my business really and I don't know your circumstances, but solar panels for a maison secondaire is an expensive way to go.  The payback period of solar versus water heated on the night tariff is long for a maison principale.

See if you can get hold of a back copy of the Mail On Sunday 13th January 2008.  There is a journalist who might be interested in your story - especially if you have the fob off reply in writing about the mairie being under no obligation to respond.

I recommend that you gem up on the various financial incentives and their conditions. We were entitled to a tax rebate, ADEME grant and a local grant - supply and fit by a QUALISOL approved outfit.  The net cost worked out a lot cheaper than buying the kit and installing it ourselves.

I didn't think I was taking anyone around in circles.  There might be restructions on the agricultural elements of the property.  It happened to someone around here - they found out about it too late.  It is probably rare but it happens so I personally wouldn't assume that you can just go ahead and get your plans drawn up.

Nobody has said that a separate CU is required.  A positive CU is still required though.