plod Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Looks like it will be Martine Aubry unless there is a recount in Segolene Royal's favour. It seems to be getting more and more acrimonious.With Mme Aubry at the head I suppose there will be a lurch leftward.Non sequitur follows - am I the only one who can't get into Sport, Pastimes etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 She'll not accept it meekly and the whole thing will turn into an Italian farce.No, you're not the only one. It has been mentioned and noted before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riff-Raff Element Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Looks like another term for Mr Sarkozy then, since the PS seem absolutely determined to tear themselves to pieces. I imagine that they may well haemorage support from the more centerist vote to benefit Mr Bayrou (who seems to be categorically against sin but has damn all else in the way of policy), which could add a note of interest.Martine Aubry! What are they thinking of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 [quote user="The Riff-Raff Element"]Martine Aubry! What are they thinking of?[/quote]I am not enamoured with either Ségo or Aubry...[:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 What a blooming disaster all around... when you think it will surely stop, up they come with something even worse. Yes, Sarkozy has it very easy.[:'(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Hollande will decide: http://info.france2.fr/congres-ps/48881360-fr.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Décidément les femmes font de la politique autrement..[:D]She might form a break-away party. It is more the PS that is finished than any individual, thought it must be said that as ex-candidate for President, ex-candidate for party leader, and ex-companion of the ex-leader she will have a bit of a job of continuing her "Renewal" line...stolen I suspect from Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plod Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 I know this is France that we are talking about but the old Labour party was unelectable until Blair arrived and moved it into the middle. How will Martine Aubry make the PS electable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 What a circus![:'(]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-socialists-at-war-after-leadership-vote-1031215.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Both parties seem quite good a vote-rigging.Remember the election for the Maire of Perpignan which has just been declared invalid because of the voting slips one of the officials had stuffed in his sock.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 The two women, vitriolic rivals for many years, spoke on the telephone at 3am yesterday to try to prevent France's principal centre-left party from plunging into a long winter of political and legal bickering which would delight supporters of President Nicolas Sarkozy. Officials said that the women ended up screaming insults at one another.Might there be an opening here for Heather Mills? [6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Ouch!!Female mud-wrestling, French style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Those were the days /...[IMG]http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r20/regine79/aubry-royal.jpg[/IMG] And NOW ..............[IMG]http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r20/regine79/Aubry.jpg[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Perhaps she has replaced 'la Démocratie participative' by 'la Démocratie répétitive'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 C'est vraiment la " bravitude" ... [Www] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/kNcFQOoHGuwznwQY8V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Wasnt that Anne Widdicome that she was kissing in the photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 It's official: Aubry has it with 102 votes.http://www.france-info.com/ (in Google English HERE)and Ségo is still bleating "We was robbed!" http://www.lefigaro.fr/assets/pdf/doc-protestation.pdf (in Google English HERE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 It's interesting that when Aubry had a lead of 42 both sides claimed that the other had rigged votes.After the recount Aubry has 102..Does,'t that suggest that there was more fiddling on Royal's side than the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I wonder how many hardcore socialists are going to give back their membership card now, after this painful debacle... what an embarrassment, how can the socialist party be credible now? Just watching the Royal vs. Aubry supporters yelling insults at each other outside the party's headquarters was enough to make anyone run for cover. Who was it who said that the only possible socialist candidate for the next presidency would be Dominique Strauss-Kahn? Of course, he might hardly be called a socialist candidate these days... edit: Puzzled: It is not as if Ségolene's party doesn't want her, but half of her party. The other half does want her, and therein lies one of the problems: too many different kinds of socialists, who cannot agree on very much. This is such a great time for the right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 In my opinion, this will pave the way to Olivier Besancenot's new party in the next presidential elections.i'm convinced many people disappointed from the PS will report their votes on him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I wonder whether it is Ségo herself who wants to be in the limelight (quite possible, after all, if she has generated so much strong anti-Ségo feeling within her own party, there must be some basic reason, she might be autocratic and totally impossible to work with) - as to the media. I have some rather uncomfortable feelings about the way the duel Ségo/Aubry has been depicted in such a stereotype way: "2 women wrestlers" etc.... difficult to know, here in France with so much rampant sexism. A breakaway group for Royal is not going to do anything except fragment socialists even further.Frenchie might well be right about the disgruntled socialists turning towards Besancenot. Either that, or dropping out altogether - where else could they go? Francois Bayrou is not credible enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Why not a Socialist party to the left lead by Aubry, a party to the right under Sarkozy, and a party in the middle lead by Bayrou?That way the 'Royalists' have a clear choice, as have those on the right uncomfortable with Sarko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I think that Frenchie has a valid point, many people now seem to be muttering about voting for Olivier Besancenot next time around, should they get the chance.They're still after change, but radical Communism/Trotskyism (gulp) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Cat"]I think that Frenchie has a valid point, many people now seem to be muttering about voting for Olivier Besancenot next time around, should they get the chance.[/quote]What a terrible prospect [:'(]I cannot believe these two "responsible" adults cannot somehow find a way together... What's more important to them? Their ego or the Party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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