marjorie campbell Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 With reference to the post by Penny29, we are in dispute with DWP who now say there is no such thing as a benefit year. Does anyone know if this is a recent change? DWP say they calculated the time our 106's would last by using their 'Reckoner' but i find it very odd that both mine and my husband's dates come out the same, considering he is 54 and i am 59 (so our state pension retirement dates are different) and our contributions must be different due to very different work histories/end dates, - oh and isn't it strange that they both ended on the date Penny refered to - 3.1.09 - end of a benefit year - which no longer exists????? 'M' and Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Dordogne Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 What post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 There is a mention of Penny29 and E106 in this FAQ: http://www.completefrance.com/cs/forums/465533/ShowPost.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinabee Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I don't think your age comes into it. The entitlement to an E106 depends on your National Insurance contributions for the previous 2 or 3 tax years. All E106's finish around the beginning of January, the number of months cover you get varies depending on the start date, i.e. when you move to France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Avery Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 [quote user="marjorie campbell"]With reference to the post by Penny29, we are in dispute with DWP who now say there is no such thing as a benefit year. Does anyone know if this is a recent change? DWP say they calculated the time our 106's would last by using their 'Reckoner' but i find it very odd that both mine and my husband's dates come out the same, considering he is 54 and i am 59 (so our state pension retirement dates are different) and our contributions must be different due to very different work histories/end dates, - oh and isn't it strange that they both ended on the date Penny refered to - 3.1.09 - end of a benefit year - which no longer exists?????'M' and Ian[/quote]Nothing strange at all about the expiry date, its the normal date in France for the expiry of E 106s. There is no correlation between the age of the person getting an E 106 and the time that it is valid for, unless if you are a woman who will get her OAP paid at age 60, in which case it will not be valid after that date. Assuming that is not the case and you have both paid NI for the last three years normally an E 106 issued to either of you is valid until the beginning of the January after next, which is the end of the FRENCH benefit year. So if you get it in January 2009 its valid until early January 2011, if you get it in December 2008 it will only be valid until January 2010. There are ways to extend it to 2 years and 6 months but it depends on paying NI in a new financial year and leaving the UK on specific dates. Cooperlola knows the details of this, I don't. If you receive a UK OAP at age 60 you can get an E121 and your spouse can piggyback on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 "How they work :> Form E106 is issued where a non-employed person transfers their > residence to another EC country, but has 'residual' entitlement to > Incapacity Benefit - Short Term (IBST). 'Residual' entitlement means > that the contributions conditions governing the award of Incapacity > Benefit are satisfied and if the customer had remained in the UK > and claimed benefit that benefit would be payable. The duration of > E106 cover equates to the duration of IBST had the person claimed > the benefit.>> E106 entitlement is awarded in line with 'Benefit Years' which run > from the first Sunday of January to the Saturday prior to the first > Sunday of January the following year. We investigate the National > Insurance (NI) contributions record of the 3 complete tax years > prior to the Benefit Year in which a person leaves the UK. If those > tax years show sufficient NI contributions E106 entitlement is given > to the end of the Benefit Year in which the person leaves the UK. > When entitlement is established this way we would look to extend > this by considering contributions paid in later tax years. I have > set out below an example to illustrate this.>> A person leaves the UK on 1 July 2007 to reside in another EC > country. The person worked for an employer paying earnings related > Class 1 NI contributions and ceased working on 30 June 2007. The 3 > complete tax years prior to the current Benefit Year are those > running from 6 April 2003 to 5 April 2006. Sufficient NI > contributions were paid in those tax years giving initial > entitlement to 5 January 2008 (end of the current Benefit Year). > Sufficient NI contributions have also been paid in the 2006/2007 tax > year to extend the E106 cover to the end of the next Benefit Year > which is 3 January 2009. If, in addition, the person had earned > enough (approximately £4,350) to pay sufficient NI contributions > from 6 April 2007 to finishing work on 30 June 2007 the E106 cover > would extend to 2 January 2010. This would give total entitlement > from 1 July 2007 to 2 January 2010. It would not be possible to > extend the cover beyond this point as NI contributions would need to > be paid in the next tax year, which would not be possible as the > person would by then have finished working and would have left the UK.>> Forms E106 are issued under Article 19.1(a) of EC Regulation 1408/71." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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