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We have recently had some work done on our house and now have a carport with a driveway of concassé.  Over the last few weeks this very tenacious weed has started sprouting through the concassé - as fast as I treat one batch with Roundup another appears.  The weed used to climb on the sides of the house (though we pulled it off regularly)   and is also in the verge and adjoining grass.  I treated it thoroughly with Roundup before the carport and surrounds were constructed.  I have just dug up one patch about a metre square and pulled out the bucketful of thick woody roots shown in the picture.

Two questions: can anyone give this weed a name? And if I keep dousing all the new shoots with Roundup or equivalent will that eventually kill it? I don't think I can face digging up all the newly laid concassé to remove every bit of root.

Many thanks,

Val

[IMG]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc147/valeriewest/weed1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc147/valeriewest/weed2.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc147/valeriewest/weed3.jpg[/IMG]

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Exactly what I thought, Russethouse. We had it in our very first garden, and luckily managed to keep it in one part, behind the garage. Digging it out and using glyphosate on any that sprouted was the best I could do. It was still there when we sold the house and moved south.  [:(]
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The plant illustrated is some kind of Parthenocissus  -  perhaps quinquifolia

I am surprised that you are having no success using Roundup, as I killed one of these all too easily (mercifully not my own) with the inadvertent drift of Roundup spray.

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[quote user="Pierre ZFP"]

Are you sure about Ground Elder?  I only ask as Ground Elder doesn't have saw-edged leaves.

Do I see tendrils in the pictures?  It could be Virginia Creeper.  If it is then not quite as bad as G.E.

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I tend to agree with Pierre on this one. We had one on the side of the house and it started to lift the tiles off the roof. We cut it off at the base and treated the stump with SKB. More powerful that Roundup, more for use on brambles etc. We still got shoots coming up so we kept pulling and carefully spraying. At last they seem to have gone.

http://www.beginner-gardening.com/virginiacreeper.html

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Many thanks to you all for your suggestions and advice.  Having looked at several photos I am 99% sure it is Virginia creeper (it does indeed have tendrils) and I will persevere with the Roundup equivalent.  No, there is no membrane under the concassé - the builders were desperate to finish and it just got overlooked.

However, this raises another interesting question:  the front of our house is covered with what I had always thought was Virginia Creeper but it is quite different from the pernicious weed described in my original post.  Its leaves are wider and shinier, though it also has tendrils and black berries and goes red in Autumn, and is a magnet for bees in July.  It is vigorous and we have to trim it regularly to keep the eaves and gutters free but it isn't invasive like the other creeper.  Can anyone identify it from the photo?

[IMG]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc147/valeriewest/Housecreeper.jpg[/IMG]

Val

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