Rob Roy Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 We've got a Free-sat box on which we can received all the ITV channels, Channel 4, Channel 5, plus various others and all BBC apart from BBC 4. Does anyone know why we can't get this, or how I can find it? When we try it comes up 'no signal' which seems rather strange as we get all the other terrestrial channels without problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Isn't BBC4 one of those that broadcasts only in the evenings? The rest of the time that channel is CBBC or Cbeebies or similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 What do you receive when you try 601 ?If you have it what signal strength and quality ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Pierre is correct, the channel only broadcasts in the evening (reminds me of BBC TV in the 50's [blink]). On our Humax, if we try to receive it now, for instance, in the middle of the day, we get the message "the channel scrambled or currently not available". Other decoders perhaps don't give error messages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Quick aside, possibly irrelevant, but worth mentioning:There was a mention on BBC News a few days ago, of a retune being necessary for Freesat viewers, as for whatever technical reasons (I didn't pay attention to what they might be), the channel might disappear from the listing.It did disappear yesterday and I did have to retune to get it back.Having said that, BBC3 & BBC4 don't show until 7pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Roy Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 Do you mean press 601 on the remote? It comes up as 'No such channel'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Roy Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 I know it doesn't start until the evening - that's when we can't get it![;-)] Thanks Clair, but we had the same problem before all the digital changes in the UK, and none of our other channels are affected. We can get BBC 3, but who wants it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 [quote user="Rob Roy"]We've got a Free-sat box [/quote]What is the make and model number of the box?Genuine 'freesat' decoders are automatically retuned following any changes of frequency on the satellite.If you have a Free to air decoder and not an actual 'freesat' box, then you will have to manually retune.That is the most likely problem if it not a 'freesat' box.Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 601 is the channel for CBBC or CBbabies that uses the same frequency, transponder and location. Try a rescan / reinstall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Also try 104,120 and 121 Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardbk Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 remember that if you have an internet connection you can also listen to Radio 4 24/7.www.bbc.co.uk/radio4 then select "listen" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin963 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 In answer to Clair's point, yes, things moved round recently; as part of the BBC's "20% cuts" it was decided to end the rental on one transponder on Astra 2 and cram everything/dump some interactive services into the remaining ones.Not a good omen, picture quality is not going to be helped by decisions to reduce carriage capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Roy Posted October 1, 2011 Author Share Posted October 1, 2011 [quote user="Jane and Danny"][quote user="Rob Roy"]We've got a Free-sat box [/quote]What is the make and model number of the box?Genuine 'freesat' decoders are automatically retuned following any changes of frequency on the satellite.If you have a Free to air decoder and not an actual 'freesat' box, then you will have to manually retune.That is the most likely problem if it not a 'freesat' box.Danny[/quote]I'm pretty sure it's only a cheapy decoder - tt is a Fortec Star FS-4200 I've been looking this morning at the rather basic User's Manual and can't see how I manually retune a single channel. I'm a bit wary aboout doing too much in case I muck up all the other channels we do have - my husband would kill me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Unless you have either a mobille dish or multible LNB then I would probably treat my self to a freesat box next time I was in the UK.Failing that process for autio search is on page 10 of the manual.http://www.fortecstar.com/user-manuals/fs-4000.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 The manual is found herehttp://www.fortecstar.com/user-manuals/fs-4200-e.pdfpage 71.3 add channel......onwardsThere are many options there.TP = transponder group of channels on one frequencyFor BBC 4you need to enter:Satellite - Astra 2 28.0E$TP - 47TP Frequency - 10803Symbol Rate - 22000Polarity - HSearch - Free (if possible)then press OKAll channels on that Transponder should now be available including BBC 4. Make sure you scan after 8 pm French time. Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 [quote user="Martin963"]In answer to Clair's point, yes, things moved round recently; as part of the BBC's "20% cuts" it was decided to end the rental on one transponder on Astra 2 and cram everything/dump some interactive services into the remaining ones.Not a good omen, picture quality is not going to be helped by decisions to reduce carriage capacity.[/quote]Be gentle with us non-techies Martin but does this mean we've all wasted our money on HD sets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkkent Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 [quote user="Martin963"]In answer to Clair's point, yes, things moved round recently; as part of the BBC's "20% cuts" it was decided to end the rental on one transponder on Astra 2 and cram everything/dump some interactive services into the remaining ones.Not a good omen, picture quality is not going to be helped by decisions to reduce carriage capacity.[/quote]Indeed. And there are rumours going around that the BBC is thinking of dumping BBC4 as part of its 20% cuts, "merging" it with BBC2.How typical, in these days of dumbing down, that the one freely available channel that behaves as though its viewers can think is considered disposable. They wouldn't consider elimination of the tripy BBC3, the chavs would be upset if they couldn't get "Snog, Marry, Avoid"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 [quote user="Benjamin"][quote user="Martin963"]In answer to Clair's point, yes, things moved round recently; as part of the BBC's "20% cuts" it was decided to end the rental on one transponder on Astra 2 and cram everything/dump some interactive services into the remaining ones.Not a good omen, picture quality is not going to be helped by decisions to reduce carriage capacity.[/quote]Be gentle with us non-techies Martin but does this mean we've all wasted our money on HD sets?[/quote]Last time I looked at the maths I thought the better data compression of HD transmission meant less rather than more bad width was needed. Counter intuative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Roy Posted October 1, 2011 Author Share Posted October 1, 2011 Thanks to everyone for your help, advice and links. One of our sons arrives on Monday for a visit so I think I'll wait and get him on the case - showing him this thread. If he does anything wrong his father won't say a word, if I do all hell will break lose![Www]Anton, if I have to wait for a visit to the UK for a Freesat Box I'll probably need to buy a hearing aid too, I'll be that old![:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 If your son s coming fromm UK tell him to go via Argos and spend £ 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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