Bugsy Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Do you think he'll get a place in the English cricket team now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Possibly not but there could be a contract with a bat supplier.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 This is not justice I think. The guy went far too far. Breaking a criminal's head after chasing him some distance away from the house so that he is brain damaged is lynch mob justice. They should have held the guy until the police came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 [quote user="Dog"]Do you think he'll get a place in the English cricket team now?[/quote]Great comment from a troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 [quote user="woolybanana"]This is not justice I think. The guy went far too far. Breaking a criminal's head after chasing him some distance away from the house so that he is brain damaged is lynch mob justice. They should have held the guy until the police came.[/quote]I think you missed the point Wooly and wonder how you would have reacted in a similar situation, ie, having your wife and family tied up and threatened at knifepoint and believing they could be killed at any moment. No one, who hasn't experienced such horror can possibly say how they would react in that 'red-mist' situation.A brain-damaged thug with a history of violent crime is not much of a loss to society IMHO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Saw this on BBC news today, the guy who broke in can't be that badly injured as he has carried on offending, the phrase was "more crimes" although it didn't say how many but I assume by that its more than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 [quote user="Bugbear"][quote user="woolybanana"][/quote]A brain-damaged thug with a history of violent crime is not much of a loss to society IMHO.[/quote]But he wasnt brain damaged before two people overstepped the mark and doled out their own version of justice.I cant hand on heart say that I wouldnt react in the same way, I certainly would feel the same emotions but hope that some sense of social responsibility would prevent me from doing so, if I did then I would deserve to be punished by the law.Without law and order, people respecting it and those who dont being made examples of where would we be?Preety much where we are I guess as the courts dont really seem to make examples of habitual law-breakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Don't get me wrong, I have every sympathy with the guy and might well have done the same thing. BUT a law which allows pursuit and assault to the point of fracturing the guys skull with a baseball bat is very dangerous. The criminal was some way from the guy's home when he was hit, I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Both parts of this story are horrific. Who can say how they would react after such a terrible event, when the 'fight' element has taken over; and how awful to have your skull fractured. But, just a thought, do they know for sure that the criminal didn't have brain damage beforehand?The law does seem to have been on the side of many criminals in some recent cases; something isn't right if generally speaking a home owner has to fear being locked up when someone commits a crime against him/her. I'm not a violent person, usually rather timid - but I don't have any idea how I might react if someone broke in to my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 That being said, I have a knobkerrie with a huge spike through it and a slightly rusty, African spear under the bed. The latter would pin an assailant to a wall or a tree, whilst the former would cleave a head in two parts causing something like 'brain cleavage'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salli Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I had someone throw house bricks through the (double glazed) windows of my house and, besides the shock of the sound...like bombs exploding, the shards of glass cut both me and one of my children. I tried to chase after the teenagers who'd done it and, had I caught them, I would have run them over - and probably reversed back to make sure. I was frightened and angry and reacted like a tigress. It is a natural instinct to attack in order to defend your offspring. The burglar got his just desserts. Seems like being hit with a cricket bat hasn't stopped him so maybe they should have swung it a little harder??This country (UK) has gone soft! No wonder the Americans think the UK presents the biggest security threat worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marym2 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I am with ANY person who does harm to this type of scum. No mercy, death after drawn and quartered, Parts stuffed down his throat, Get real these people kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 [quote user="Marym2"]I am with ANY person who does harm to this type of scum. No mercy, death after drawn and quartered, Parts stuffed down his throat, Get real these people kill.[/quote]Burglars or homeowners armed with cricket bats, shotguns, (Tony Martin) or knobkerries (WB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 There is a halfway house here, of course. Catch your burglar then put his fingers in an old fashioned, electric food mincer; he may shout a bit, but as he is light a few fingers, he will no longer be light fingered!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salli Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 [quote user="Chancer"][quote user="Marym2"]I am with ANY person who does harm to this type of scum. No mercy, death after drawn and quartered, Parts stuffed down his throat, Get real these people kill.[/quote]Burglars or homeowners armed with cricket bats, shotguns, (Tony Martin) or knobkerries (WB)[/quote]It's a shame I didn't catch those that did it to me - they did 15 more after me and the shock killed one old boy. Given my time again I'd run / drive a little faster to make sure I caught the little sh1ts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Had they dragged the guy back to the house to await the police and he had bumped into the cricket bat whilst trying to escape ( a bit like head butting a truncheon whilst resisting arrest) it would have been a different matter.Whilst most of us can identify with they did what they did and how they felt, I doubt that they ever expected to get away scot free.Justice was done the first time regarding their crime, and clemency was shown on the subsequent appeal..I wonder if justice was done to the burglar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 [quote user="NickP"][quote user="Dog"]Do you think he'll get a place in the English cricket team now?[/quote]Great comment from a troll[/quote]Thanks for the Gollum like comment - you may not have caught the irony. Asians have traditionally been ignored when it comes to the national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Its the system thats at fault, the police and the judiciary, people just don't trust either of them anymore but then is it really their fault or is it the fault of their boss's aga the government. Yet again a classic example of government not listening to what people really want which is good policing, strong penalties for criminals and to feel safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Fault of this nasty, mindless government who have distorted British values to the point that the country is now at the level of Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Wooly, if only the UK was at the same level as Europe, it would probably be better, unfortunatly its gone beyond, or below that which ever way you want to view it. [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 [quote user="Dog"][quote user="NickP"] [quote user="Dog"]Do you think he'll get a place in the English cricket team now?[/quote]Great comment from a troll[/quote]Thanks for the Gollum like comment - you may not have caught the irony. Asians have traditionally been ignored when it comes to the national team.[/quote] From your comment it is obvious that you do not know what a troll is in internet terms, I suggest you do a bit of research. As for irony there was nothing ironical about your Cricket comment, in fact you obviously know nothing about cricket. Quite a lot of "Asians" have played cricket for England, one even captained the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 [quote user="NickP"][quote user="Dog"][quote user="NickP"] [quote user="Dog"]Do you think he'll get a place in the English cricket team now?[/quote]Great comment from a troll[/quote]Thanks for the Gollum like comment - you may not have caught the irony. Asians have traditionally been ignored when it comes to the national team.[/quote] From your comment it is obvious that you do not know what a troll is in internet terms, I suggest you do a bit of research. As for irony there was nothing ironical about your Cricket comment, in fact you obviously know nothing about cricket. Quite a lot of "Asians" have played cricket for England, one even captained the side. [/quote]Likewise ye know not Gollum - ONE even captained the side - lol. Take your trolley and...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 So Mr Dog, your comment "Gollum like" I'm not a fan of Tolkien but I do understand the Gollum reference" but "Take your trolley and......" would you like to expand it, as It's not an expression I'm familiar with? [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegwini Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Well I second that, but in the UK honest, innocent citizens are barely allowed to defend themselves!Oh for the days when OH owned a 357 Magnum, and I learned to use it. The theory for me was to aim for the chest, and if the recoil messes up your accuracy then you get ( a potential rapist) in the g**lies instead.Interesting that judges rationalise away such nasty violent crimes (that burglar) since most judges live miles away from crime hotspots, and most have very secure accomodation when working away from home.Tegwini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now