chessie Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Now I have the perfect excuse -http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/27/chemical-found-in-red-wine-and-chocolate-helps-restore-defences/Yippeee- 1,000 bottles of red wine a year - and all the dark chocs I can eat....I'll be tipsy - and fat - but my brain will be happy....!!Just thought we need a bit of cheering up - enjoy - and have a bottle of red wine today - and tomorrow, and hic, the day after - and every day !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulT Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 For me it's a dilemma. Yesterday the doctor diagnosed that I am suffering from gout and a big nono is red wine. So do I give up red wine and hopefully control the gout whilst losing my faculties or carry on drinking it and keep my faculties whilst keeping the excruciating pain of gout :)Seriously, never realised the intense pain of gout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Paul, you're advised to keep off red wine. I was advised yesterday by a urology consultant not to eat chocolate because of kidney stones. Maybe we could help one another out here ............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I've had gout - was working for a brewery at the time ! Painful.Hubby has had kidney stones - several times. Even more painful.Neither time were we advised against either red wine, or chocolate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 The only thing my husband was warned against years ago when in hospital for kidney stones was rhubarb! I was amazed when told to avoid chocolate - it's one of my major vices! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suein56 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Judith wrote : Neither time were we advised against either red wine or chocolate.This thread intrigued me as I know that gout is a form of arthritis and I have arthritis with very occasional twinges of gout in my right big toe so I googled - as you do - and found this : www.ukgoutsociety.org › docs › goutsoc...(not sure the link will come out right from my tablet, but you get the idea)It's a PDF and it's info seems sound to me. Beer seems to be more damaging than red wine !!Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Apparently kidney stones are usually caused by foods that contain oxalates such as:beetroot asparagus rhubarb chocolate berries leeks parsley celery almonds, peanuts and cashew nuts soy products grains, such as oatmeal, wheat germ and wholewheat There are also uric acid stones, for which it's recommended to reduce the amount of meat, poultry fish in the diet. Out of that lot, I enjoy beetroot, asparagus, leeks, parsley, almonds and cashew nuts, but the problematic one for me is chocolate. The consultant mentioned cutting down on tea and coffee as well as chocolate. http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Kidney-stones/Pages/Prevention.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patf Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Paul - the doctor could be wrong in his diagnosis. Did you have a urine test? I had pain at night in one of my toes. The doctor said it could be gout and prescribed some tablets - can't remember the name, they were blue, and gave me terrible diarrhoeia, I stopped taking them and the pain turned out not to be gout but arthritis. Urine sample showed uric acid in normal limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 It's all very well red wine being anti demetia and I welcome the news wholeheartedly but what about Altzheimers, it must be contra indicated for that because when I drink it my memory goes to complete sh1t [8-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulT Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 [quote user="Patf"]Paul - the doctor could be wrong in his diagnosis. Did you have a urine test? I had pain at night in one of my toes. The doctor said it could be gout and prescribed some tablets - can't remember the name, they were blue, and gave me terrible diarrhoeia, I stopped taking them and the pain turned out not to be gout but arthritis. Urine sample showed uric acid in normal limits.[/quote]The doctor wants me to have a blood test to check for uric acid once this has subsided.She put me on Nurofen and something to protect my stomach.Sorry OP I rather hijacked this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Omeprazole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patf Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Yes, sorry, it was a blood test, not urine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I thought the things to avoid were red meat and offal like kidneys and liver, kind of "red coloured" stuff.And definitely a blood test for uric acid. My mother had it and, strangely enough, she was a slim, active woman and I always thought that overweight males (think Henry VIII) were the principal victims!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 [quote user="suein56"]Judith wrote : Neither time were we advised against either red wine or chocolate.This thread intrigued me as I know that gout is a form of arthritis and I have arthritis with very occasional twinges of gout in my right big toe so I googled - as you do - and found this : www.ukgoutsociety.org › docs › goutsoc...(not sure the link will come out right from my tablet, but you get the idea)It's a PDF and it's info seems sound to me. Beer seems to be more damaging than red wine !!Sue[/quote]Yes, Sue, it did turn out to be arthritis .. in the big toe joints (I was a dancer for years, now suffering a damaged hip I suspect from that as well) in the end ... but everybody laughed when they knew where I worked - I never did drink much beer, even then, but do still rather like my red wine, though it likes me not as much as it did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 [quote user="Gardengirl "]Apparently kidney stones are usually caused by foods that contain oxalates such as:beetroot asparagus rhubarb chocolate berries leeks parsley celery almonds, peanuts and cashew nuts soy products grains, such as oatmeal, wheat germ and wholewheat There are also uric acid stones, for which it's recommended to reduce the amount of meat, poultry fish in the diet. Out of that lot, I enjoy beetroot, asparagus, leeks, parsley, almonds and cashew nuts, but the problematic one for me is chocolate. The consultant mentioned cutting down on tea and coffee as well as chocolate. http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Kidney-stones/Pages/Prevention.aspx[/quote]GG, that's interesting. Hubby eats few veg and nothing in your list, even not much tea and coffee (he rarely imbibes anything but some wine, water and a tot of whisky for apero each night) ... but he does like his red meat. Doctor's advice here was to keep his water intake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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