woolybanana Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I would love to know why the anti-lobby does not want foreigners, residents and taxpayers, to vote in local elections. Simple nationalism or racism? The comments below the vote are fascinating.http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/2010/01/12/01002-20100112QCMWWW00627-etes-vous-favorable-au-vote-des-etrangers-aux-elections-locales-.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 But this is simply the rabid right that you represent in all your posts.Why would you give a vote to simple Norman in "his barrel".Whereas I would never deny a vote to lovelorn "Wooly", even if his banana is soft and he is a rabid facist.Assume the position... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 Ah words, words, words Normie. I simply think that if you pay your taxes and are resident you get the vote. I would like to hear the views of those who voted 'no' though I suspect I can guess what they might be. That makes me neither right not left, nor rabid.Talking of barrels and draughts, are you still picking up chewing gum in the street to stuff in the holes in the barrel. I am sure we could have a whip round. Oooops, that word 'whip' might be too much excitement for one day, eh Normie![;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Go on, slug it out to the bitter end, you two! I'm enjoying my ringside seat enormously.............[:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 [quote user="woolybanana"] I simply think that if you pay your taxes and are resident you get the vote. [/quote]I agree with that too. I'm a citizen of two different countries, yet have no right to vote anywhere. Just as well there's little choice I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 You can vote locally if you have paid your taxes.On the other hand after a certain time ( 15 years I think) a UK citizen is disenfranchised .A combat against this clear breach of rights ( remember "no taxation without represention" ?" would have been worthwhile, but unfortunately ' les Anglais" (Cooperlola etc) have focussed their protest on other issues with no moral (as opposed to legal) justification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Dordogne Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 And we also get a vote in the Euro elections of course.Norman, perhaps those of us fighting other battles are trying to fight battles that we know we can win, rather than those that for the moment we can't and for some, their time has already run out and the monies they were due both legally and morally are now matters for their estate and their families, rather than the claimant themselves.But if you feel strongly about this issue of voting and the 15 year rule and disenfranchisement, why don't you start the campaign to have the law changed for 'les Anglais' to have the vote or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonrouge Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I was a card carrying member of the Labour Party. My Grandfather was one of the original founders of the Labour Party.Grew up not far from Nye Bevan.There is very little that anyone can tell me about true socialism.Was in Wales 84/85 during the strike and saw what one bigot and one politician did to communities not miners. Big difference.Believed in Tony Blair made big error of judgment.I simply do not care that I cannot vote with recent history and form why would one?There is a big battle going on at the moment on another front where HMG are denying UK citizens their 'just dues' and I am more interested in that fight which has a value attached to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 People die every day fighting for the right to vote - thus I think we should all take this hard won right extremely seriously.I'm sorry Norman that you chose to single me out because I believe in the right to free healthcare for all and make some small effort to fight for it. We do not lose the right to vote after 15 years - we lose the right to vote in UK general elections. Different thing. We Europeans are all entiitled to apply for French citizenship (and keep our UK status to boot). All that is required is that we make an effort to integrate into the society within which we have chosen to live - learn the basics about the language, constitution and culture. That's in fact what I'm in the process of doing so I can apply for dual citizenship and vote here in France, whose political decisions now affect my daily life far more than the UK's do.Local elections and European elections we can all vote in. Which cudgels would you like me to take up on your behalf then Norman? If you have a cause I believe in, I'll help fight it. But voting rights? - I reckon that at the moment at least, European emigres and expats are not disenfranchised unless they chose to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 How important are local and European elections though? Serious question, because I've certainly never given those elections a second thought.I've also only ever voted once in my 38 years of life, but most of that was due to be in the wrong place at the wrong time during an election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 In France I reckon local elections are much more important than the UK really. It's amazing what an effect your maire can have on the basics of your daily life and the way your community is run. But that is just my opinion of course. Those who have worked in local politics in the UK may disagree with me and indeed know a great deal more than I on that subject (not difficult).[:)]As to Europe - how often does one hear European legislation being disscussed? It was a piece of European law which started the healthcare debacle. So I'd take European policics and elections pretty seriously too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 [quote user="cooperlola"]In France I reckon local elections are much more important than the UK really. It's amazing what an effect your maire can have on the basics of your daily life and the way your community is run. But that is just my opinion of course. Those who have worked in local politics in the UK may disagree with me and indeed know a great deal more than I on that subject (not difficult).[:)][/quote]Mine as well coops, you just beat me to it.Our village has been transformed following the removal of the old crowd.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I second that, local elections here in France are so important and they do have an effect directly on the residents of the village, town etc. In some ways its more important to vote in the local elections than it is in the national. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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