Chancer Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 It can be very confusing being a male, am I allowed to say that or should it be on another thread?Why is it that all the feminist "wimmin" always seem to hide behind a male user name?Not that they manage to remain incognito for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. Abraham Lincoln16th president of US (1809 - 1865) If the cap fits, it's a good method.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Just late abortion with a trendy name " nouveau né "...only 8...Simone Weil wins the prize....millions...was she impregnated Leo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Such a pity that it turns out this forum is definitely not the place to try and have a serious discussion.... better stick with fosses septiques, motoring and property prices... which all have their place too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissie Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Yes a great pity - and shameful to use such a terrible tragedy for point scoring.Does anybody believe that the father had no idea at all? I do find this incredible? Just like the wife of the Austrian chap who kept a daughter and her children to abuse, in his cellar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 [quote user="Swissie"]Yes a great pity - and shameful to use such a terrible tragedy for point scoring.Does anybody believe that the father had no idea at all? I do find this incredible? Just like the wife of the Austrian chap who kept a daughter and her children to abuse, in his cellar?[/quote]Here the woman in question is very overweight, and could conceal her pregnancies without any problem, her neighbours and friends had no idea either. If she gave birth in a corner by herself, and strangled the newborn immediately, then it is conceivable her husband would never have known. Presumably we have all come across stories of a woman who had, herself, no idea she was pregnant (not the case here, as the women knew full well she was pregnant), and giving birth in a bathroom. I came across someone like this myself, and she truly did not realise, until the birth, that she had been pregnant. But, emphasis, not the case here.It is very different from the Austrian man keeping and abusing his daughter and their children in the cellar. That was something which went on day in, day out, for years, not just a one-day event repeated 8 times.Looking at the various articles about "the reasons" behind this, I found this one quite interesting:http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2010/07/29/01016-20100729ARTFIG00580-ces-meres-infanticides-sont-incapables-de-s-expliquer.phpThere is a difference made between "infanticide" which is the killing of one's child (under the age of 14 I believe?), and "neo-naticide" which is the killing of one's newborn, less than 24 hours old. In any case, here is a list of French neonaticides/infanticides of these last few years:http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2010/07/28/01016-20100728ARTFIG00537-plusieurs-cas-d-infanticides-multiples-ces-dernieres-annees.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissie Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Yes agreed that the 2 cases are totally different. And a very interesting article. It just seems so unbelievable that couples can live in such a way, without the most basic of communication - so dreadfully sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 [quote user="Swissie"]Yes agreed that the 2 cases are totally different. And a very interesting article. It just seems so unbelievable that couples can live in such a way, without the most basic of communication - so dreadfully sad.[/quote]Au contraire, Swissie, they "communicated" all right; perhaps even "connected" when they were making the babies!Rather like madame la voisine who has never been seen together with monsieur and yet they are the parents of no fewer than eight children! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissie Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Just do not know how to say this - but was sex a mutual experience, or did he just 'jump' on her whenever? (sorry if this seems crude). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Maybe she jumped on him or perhaps he was not at all interested but gave in after nagging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 In Europe :: In March, Celine Lesage admitted killing six of her newborns, whose corpses were found in her basement in northwest France.:: In 2009, Veronique Courjault (pictured) was convicted of murdering three of her babies in France.:: In 2006, a woman was convicted in Germany of killing eight of her newborns and burying them in flower pots and a fish tank. Why is this happening so much ? There must be a lot more as yet undiscovered . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadie Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 In today's news BBC a grandmother in Liverpool has been charged with "birth concealment" of 4 infants. No further details but perhaps it is even more widespread than mainland europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 [quote user="pachapapa"]Just late abortion with a trendy name " nouveau né "...only 8...Simone Weil wins the prize....millions...was she impregnated Leo?[/quote] Any chance of a translation my friend? I really don't understand your meaning ? "Just late abortion with a trendy name " nouveau né "...only 8...Simone Weil wins the prize....millions...was she impregnated Leo?" Sorry to trouble you but I'm a little concerned as there appears to be lots of things going on in the world that I know nothing about, maybe you could enlighten me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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