your medical info at your fingertips

[mint]

for those who'd like a DMP, you only need to find out on dmp.fr and all will be revealed

[pomme]

Are you sure?

All I currently have in my DMP account are my Ameli statements.

I suspect most doctors won't add any information automatically. I believe a lot of their systems aren't compatible so they'd need to re-enter the data, without payment or buy additional software?

I could add my own information but would it be worthwhile?

If the DMP doesn't show your complete medical record isn't there the possibility of errors in diagnosis, recommendations, prescriptions, etc.

[idun]

My french GP's never kept any of my medical records. I had all our xrays and lab results etc and referal letters and everything to go with that. All at home.

And do you know what, apart from two things I never heard of anyone complaining of medical errors.

The first was someone who went to hospital for a problem with their eyes, and ended up with an infection that they thought would blind them, fortunately it was not that bad in the end, but reduced vision never the less, the infection had nothing to do with the original problem.

And the other occasion was that a lady I know's daughter had the wrong leg amputated......yes, the wrong leg, which is truly medical negligence.

I do know that that system was abused a lot, but medical errors, it was one thing that never seemed to be a problem.

Half a record is surely more dangerous than the old system of basically the patient telling the doctors what is wrong etc.

I suppose that as long as allergies are shown, that would be OK, but I am not convinced about the rest.

[Judith-aka-Judith]

I am much of the same opinion, unless it is mandtory, it will be of little use ... and whilst in theory having all your records in the same place should he a good idea .. I get no idea of the doctors in hospitals, surgeries, cliniques etc sharing ... whilst ever there remains a level of clerical / administrative ignorance, even occasionally incompetence ... I don't see it helping that much!

[NormanH]

I have had a DMP account almost since it started, and the only things that are in it are my Ameli accounts and stuff that I have uploaded myself.

My lab doesn't send off the result

My GP practice hasn't heard of it.

Even my cancer hospital supposedly one of the leading cancer research places in France is just  starting to think about it

Apparently none of these people  have the necessary software  yet to be able to send records off...

"Aujourd’hui, l’ICM accueille l’Assurance Maladie de Montpellier qui vient informer les patients, leurs proches et le personnel sur le Dossier Médical Partagé (DMP) et les accompagner pour la création de leur compte.
Le DMP, un atout majeur pour simplifier et améliorer le suivi, la coordination des soins et la prise en charge médicale.
N'hésitez pas à aller sur le stand jusqu'à 16h."

[nomoss]

I created our DMPs in November last year. Actually, I didn't do it personally, on line, because our CVs didn't have the numbers on the back which were required to do it. Our pharmacy did the job, and put little DMP stickers on our CVs.

Since then, we get emails every time either of us has a prescription filled, but there is nothing else added to our records.

I just went through the daft procedure of logging on to the DMP site, getting a code sent to my mobile, and entering it, as Mint's post led me to believe there now might be something useful on the records.

Still nothing, except that my MT accessed my DMP last time I saw him, but added nothing. I had asked him about it, and he said it didn't seem to be working very well. He is either very patient or very diplomatic.

My wife's MT took over from the previous doctor who retired at the end of last year, but is still not in the system, and can't even take my wife's CV. She was standing in for the previous doctor until the latter retired, and treatment was reimbursed normally, using her CV and the previous doctor's card reader, as being given by a replacement for a MT.

Now, two months later, the new doctor has to give my wife a feuille de soins to recover the payment, which is a PITA. She said they still have not properly registered her in the practice, so she can do nothing on line, let alone access my wife's DMP.

[NormanH]

perhaps you could declare the MT yourself?

https://www.ameli.fr/assure/adresses-et-contacts/un-changement-de-situation/declarer-un-nouveau-medecin-traitant

[nomoss]

[quote user="NormanH"]

perhaps you could declare the MT yourself?

https://www.ameli.fr/assure/adresses-et-contacts/un-changement-de-situation/declarer-un-nouveau-medecin-traitant

[/quote]

Thanks, Norman. I just looked at the form.

It has to be completed together with the new MT, but the problem is that she has only recently completed her internship or whatever, prior to her replacing the previous doctor who retired, and is not yet fully "in the system".

On top of that, my wife's current MT, as appears on her Ameli espace, shut down her practice in the middle of last year and went no-one-knows-where. I tried looking her up on the Ameli site, but she is no longer registered on it. I think possibly that she now uses her married rather than maiden name. She didn't warn us, my wife only found out when she phoned for a rdv, and was told to go elsewhere, and to collect her dossier the following week.

Anyway, a doctor in another cabinet here became the replacement, but she is the one who retired (on Dec 31 last year), and said she could not register herself as my wife's new MT because of this when my wife saw her last July.

The new doctor took over on 1 Jan., but as of 7 Feb. could still not do anything on line nor swipe my wife's CV. There is no problem getting treated, but sending off the form each time is a nuisance, and I also have to keep an eye on the reimbursements from both CPAM and our mutuelle, which take longer than usual.

[mint]

Thanks for all the posts.  So, works better in theory than in real life then?

For the first time this week, I went to an entirely new bit of a hospital where I am treated.  Everything was spanking new and they had the dmp info all around the sitting rooms and reception area.  I haven't personally tried it and meant to ask my specialist but our talk led on to all sorts of subjects unconnected with my medical condition and I forgot to talk about this.

Sorry, didn't mean to mislead anybody but I knew that the old faithful ones "in the know" would soon tell me if I have got anything wrong![:D][:P]

[idun]

I was told only a very few years after I moved to France that some things are like dinosaurs that don't die out, maybe this is another example.

 I think that it is just in the moeurs of french society for one to keep one's own records.

[NormanH]

Perhaps it is a campaign in the regional Cancer centres to make it better known?

I just was very disappointed the first time I logged on.

I am very much in favour of the idea, and I imagined I would find my medical records and all my results in the 'dossier' my automatically  uploaded.

I think it will be like that when it fully comes into service, but when I went to have the general check up that you told us about I asked whether  the results would be sent to the DMP (as it is a bit of a summary of our condition it seemed an ideal thing to be in there)   and the doctor told me they weren't yet connected, even though the examination took place in the Sécu building here

You have no need to make any excuses...in principle is a very good idea, and I think we should all join up. It is just taking a very long time to put in place, as it needs the  cooperation of all the services that deal with you such as GP; labs; xray and scanners ; and various hospital departments.

for the moment each one of these tend to see it as yet one more task on an increasing list:((

[NormanH]

idun

with the DMP you still keep all your own records BUT in addition a copy of them and each new examination or consultation will be added.

There is a label on  the CV to show you have a DMP and  in the event or an emergency for example your records are available to the emergency services.

Equally if you had a scan in one hospital 3 weeks ago a specialist in another could consult it and avoid ordering another if nothing new was needed.

It will be good IF they get it working

[idun]

I realised that, or hoped that one could keep one's own records, although I daresay these days one does not get a copy of an xray? Or do you ?

I remember the carte vitale coming out and it literally took years and years to be in place more or less properly.

AND in spite of it, there are still problems, ie my poor son has had endless problems with his as he lives in one department and works in another.

[nomoss]

[quote user="idun"]

I realised that, or hoped that one could keep one's own records, although I daresay these days one does not get a copy of an xray? Or do you ?

I remember the carte vitale coming out and it literally took years and years to be in place more or less properly.

AND in spite of it, there are still problems, ie my poor son has had endless problems with his as he lives in one department and works in another.

[/quote]

Everyone still gives us copies for our records, as well as (usually) sending stuff to our MT.

My wife has to tell them her MT's name every time, and they then have to look her up, but it will get better [;-)]

We get copies of X-rays, but these are now printed copies instead photo film.

Results of scans etc. are on CD's.

[idun]

Printed xrays, well why not. I had wondered and now I know.

thanks

[nomoss]

[quote user="idun"]

Printed xrays, well why not. I had wondered and now I know.

thanks

[/quote]

They no longer use photographic film for X-rays. The machine produces digital images which can be stored as such or printed out.

[Judith-aka-Judith]

Yes, sometimes you get a disc, sometimes paper, sometimes the film, I've had them all over the last couple of years!