Lori Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 You can't make this stuff up. The most basic of things has to be made near impossible.Delays and delays and delays. Yet, they say there will not be a shortage of vaccines and they set up these dates to take RDV's. Yet, according to this article, those RDV's had to be cancelled. Why?? No vaccines to be had.And what is this ridiculous notion that employees cannot be seen by other employees getting the vaccine due to privacy issues ! Stupid is too nice a word.https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/peu-de-doses-disponibles-et-des-delais-la-vaccination-anti-covid-en-entreprise-a-demarre-au-ralenti_AD-202102270031.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Well, with the Dunkerque outbreak I reckon they toon the vaccines from all the other places in the area and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 You could be right. I do recall reading something along those lines. But, what does that really mean? To me, that they have little to no vaccines in hand. And, the promises of future deliveries seem to get delayed and delayed and delayed. This problem they spoke of at the plant in Belgium. Is that the ONLY place we can get vaccines from? And I thought there was going to be some sort of investigation into what the manufacturing delay/problem at that plant actually was. Maybe I have missed it, but I haven't heard a word to answer that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Unbelievable, so sorry to hear more of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 [quote user="Lori"]You could be right. I do recall reading something along those lines. But, what does that really mean? To me, that they have little to no vaccines in hand. And, the promises of future deliveries seem to get delayed and delayed and delayed. This problem they spoke of at the plant in Belgium. Is that the ONLY place we can get vaccines from? And I thought there was going to be some sort of investigation into what the manufacturing delay/problem at that plant actually was. Maybe I have missed it, but I haven't heard a word to answer that question.[/quote]Delays could be caused by any number of factors: the batches werent good, electricity cuts, no bottles, strikes, difficulty moving vaccine from one plant to another, upgrading to produce more...... the list goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 Yes, Wooly, I agree the list 'could' be endless. But, it likely isn't. This was announced a good while back. It should not take weeks of investigations to determine the 'actual' reason(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 [quote user="Lori"]You could be right. I do recall reading something along those lines. But, what does that really mean? To me, that they have little to no vaccines in hand. And, the promises of future deliveries seem to get delayed and delayed and delayed. This problem they spoke of at the plant in Belgium. Is that the ONLY place we can get vaccines from? And I thought there was going to be some sort of investigation into what the manufacturing delay/problem at that plant actually was. Maybe I have missed it, but I haven't heard a word to answer that question.[/quote]Lori, I have spoken about the J & J vaccine on other threads but I am posting this here for you[url]https://www.sudouest.fr/sante/covid-le-vaccin-johnson-johnson-devrait-etre-approuve-par-l-europe-dans-les-prochains-jours-1464546.php[/url]DELAY? Yes, that is the operative word. Vaccine approved at the beginning of March but delays will mean roll-out will be end of March or beginning of April. I reckon that that will be end of May then?[:-))] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Astra Zeneca should be available now. Definitely appointments being made when I was at the docs. this week, but at say four jabs an hour.... f****** hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 Thanks Mint, I did see that. Based on the fiasco we've seen so far, I figure end of May for the J&J arrival is highly doubtful. Even if it does arrive (and I hope it does), if they can't roll out more than 100,000 doses for the entire EU, it will take a lot longer than end of May to get things moving. And, if the EU can't figure out how to use the vaccinations they have or get, then it will be a lot longer than that...Sorry, fed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 [quote user="anotherbanana"]Astra Zeneca should be available now. Definitely appointments being made when I was at the docs. this week, but at say four jabs an hour.... f****** hopeless.[/quote]Wools, Astra Zeneca is only, for now, for professionals and soignants of 50 to 64 with co-morbidities. So none for you, Wooly[:P] No, I'm not mocking you, none for me either![:'(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith-aka-Judith Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 It seems it is the admin which takes the time. For example, regular blood test taken by nurse at the surgery. 2 minutes to take the blood, 15 minutes to do the paperwork. So 4 vaccine an hour sounds about all they can cope with. Shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Zoff Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 No comfort to people in France but emphasises how lucky Britain was to escape the sell-off of chunks of the NHS to Trump's mates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted March 7, 2021 Author Share Posted March 7, 2021 Close to home here. They still can't get this right.https://www.europe1.fr/societe/cest-inacceptable-le-coup-de-gueule-dun-medecin-contre-la-logistique-de-vaccination-4029671 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 It's just too, too depressing reading about this subject.....yesterday, I felt really low and I don't know what answer I will get from the donkey supposed to be a doctor at the Pôle de Sante tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 From 15th you can go to a pharmacy, Nimt, dont need for your donkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meek Megan Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 What a miserable situation!I have to say that I am surprised because, based on personal experience, the French heath service is generally far better than the British NHS. I am assuming that they have messed up the vaccinations due to centralisation, ie central government trying to run it and failing ( as usual).if they can secure enough vaccine and get it out to the pharmacies and local hospitals then hopefully things will improve rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 The people on the ground are there, it is the EU and high level bureaucracy which have bu**ered it all up. But, is is thawing fast as they have finally understood that they can only control the virus if everyone has the jab. And that Macron will be shunted off his throne if he doesnt get it right.But they may target the vaccine on the worst hit areas as they are doing here at least initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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