Ssc Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 I have searched the forum but can't find the answer. Perhaps someone can help as my question seemd to be the other way round to previous posts.Currently have Sky digibox and British TV via scart socket - no problem. DID have second (UK) TV running from the 'aerial' socket on Sky box - no problem.Unfortunately the second TV has gone poof ( just short of actually catching on fire) so I need to buy a new one. I understand that France operates SECAM system L but that most new TV's bought here in France are multi standard. Loooked today at the shops and found most stated PAL/SECAM and BG ??.Question is -If I buy one of these will it work with the output from the sky box aerial socket which I presume is PAL or is it more complicated than that.Thanks - Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 'fraid so.. There are technical differences between the type of PAL used in the UK/Eire, and that used on the continent. the 'B/G' you saw is actually 'PAL-B/G' whereas the UK system is, in fact, PAL-I, and the main difference is a different size gap between the sound part of the signal, and the vision. most times you will get a perfect picture and no sound, or sound and no pic. The reason a SCART feed works from a Skybox to a continental PAL set is because the pic and sound signal come up separate wires. ('I' as well as the spacing means transmitted at UHF frequencies. 'B/G' means transmitted on VHF/UHF frequencies)Having said that, it sometimes works: a friend bought a little b/w portable in Stuttgart which would be PAL B/G, and it worked fine back in the UK. You really need to borrow one first.Good luckp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh4 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 So if you buy a french TV and connect that to Sky via the scart - which you maybe able to branch to have the DVD come in via the same scart - or you just unplug one and plug the other, could you not then connect your UK TV to the digibox via the aerial connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssc Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Logically that would seem to be the easiest solution except main (British) set is 28" and the second was a portable in the bedroom. Don't really want a 28" in the bedroom and then have to buy another 28" for the lounge. I was hoping to buy a reasonably good French portable and just plug it in.Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin963 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Check the Philips range; there ARE system I sets available in France, although if you find one that lists I in the manual make it a condition of sale that you can take it back if it doesn't work. A lot of Philips sets do; but Toshiba (for example) list I in the manual but it's greyed out when you try and select it on the menus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Martin, as usual you took the words out of my mouth. Having posted the above last night I switched off the PC and then went to go to bed. It was only as I was turning off my own Philips TV I realised I should have added a line about their multi-standard capability.That might be the solution, Ssc.p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin963 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 And I always thought it was me that was pipped at the post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJSLIV Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 but Toshiba (for example) list I in the manual but it's greyed out when you try and select it on the menus. Just a thought ;would it ungrey it if you select France as the location.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssc Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Thanks all - Just to summarise then. I need a TV (suggestion Phillips) that accepts PAL system I signals ( is that an i or a one) and it should work although no guarantees !Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin963 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 It's an I as HIJK!Well no guarantees. But it should allow you to watch from your Sky box via the RF (aerial lead) output.re the Toshiba - well I'm 99% certain that in fact it was a sequence that went B/G -> D/K -> L -> B/G and that in fact what I wrote wasn't therefore quite accurate. But as it's in 24 and I'm in Devon I can't check at the moment. But it is a good point and I will verify next time we're over. Presumably you meant select "UK" as the location for I; in France it would look at L first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Last time I checked about 50% of the TVs on sale were both PAL I and B/G. This was about three years ago in Bolanger and Auchan in Boulogne. Against this Carrefour in Calais had VCRs which were only PAL B/G on sale. Our El Cheapo Products 8 years old French purchased portable was both PAL I and PAL B/G.If its a supermarket purchase get them to open the packaging and check the manual. Alternatively take a UK VCR with a UK tape and see if TV will connect and receive properly via Co Ax rather than scart. Alternatively if you cannot find a PAL I TV buy a 'Video Sender' ( which sits between sky box and first TV on the scart) and can then translit to a second unit which plugs into TV via a scart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssc Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 Success !! Bought a Phillips portable (manual confirmed true multi standard) and set it to UK Pal standard and autotuned. Bingo.Thanks for your help. - Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearly Retired (I am now) Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Here's another slant on this one. We have aUK TV working in France just fine with Sky. I fancy watching some French TV on a portable sized set (in the kitchen) but am dismayed at the cost of decent small sets in France. Can I buy a Philips portable in England, take it to France and tune in to Secam broadcasts there? I am expecting "Yes", but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Trollope Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 [quote user="Nearly Retired"]Here's another slant on this one. We have aUK TV working in France just fine with Sky. I fancy watching some French TV on a portable sized set (in the kitchen) but am dismayed at the cost of decent small sets in France. Can I buy a Philips portable in England, take it to France and tune in to Secam broadcasts there? I am expecting "Yes", but who knows?[/quote]Possibly, probably, maybe, no, yes.... Grass is green. Everything green is not grass. Yes, all Philips TV's bought in France will work with PAL/I, my (expensive) UK-sourced Philips (about 4 years old) won't work with SECAM.Best to look in the manual/ask the bloke in the shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 [quote user="nicktrollope"][quote user="Nearly Retired"]Here's another slant on this one. We have aUK TV working in France just fine with Sky. I fancy watching some French TV on a portable sized set (in the kitchen) but am dismayed at the cost of decent small sets in France. Can I buy a Philips portable in England, take it to France and tune in to Secam broadcasts there? I am expecting "Yes", but who knows?[/quote]Possibly, probably, maybe, no, yes.... Grass is green. Everything green is not grass. Yes, all Philips TV's bought in France will work with PAL/I, my (expensive) UK-sourced Philips (about 4 years old) won't work with SECAM.Best to look in the manual/ask the bloke in the shop.[/quote]Bloke in the shop won't have a clue and will probably confuse it withNTSC, and the manual will be either be nowhere to be seen, or buried inthe box somewhere in the warehouse.You'd be far better to make anote of the model number and then come back and check it out on thePhilips' website where you can download a spec sheet and/or a pdfversion of the manual.p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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