Quillan Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I have a 307 (diesel 2.0ltr HDI) and was thinking about servicing it myself. I can buy the air filters, oil filter and oil in the supermarket, so far so good. Then I notice (in the hand book) that there is some form of reservoir in the car that holds a fuel additive which is refilled by the service mechanics. What I want to know is what is this additive, what does it do, can I refill it myself, what is it called and where do I get it from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1steveuk Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 These diesels have a soot filter known calleda FAP. It works by burning the soot off every few thousand miles. The additive iscalled Eolys which is stored next to the diesel tank with acomputer controlled dosing mechanism.Now you should be able to buy it somehwere, but I wouldn't like to guess where! Lorry air brake anti-freeze used to be carbon tetrochloride (drying cleaning fluid), and for years it was difficult to buy over the counter, because the dealers want to sell it!I bet this additive tank it's just a plastic bottle with a screw cap!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 That was quick, thanks.Now I have the name of the stuff I have done a search on google which turned up some interesting information plus a description of how it works. Getting it topped up or refilled seems to be rather expensive but the it appears to last a long time, 80,000 miles which I guess is around 120,000kms. I think I will first try and find where its stored in the car and then if I can get some then top it up. Apparently looking at some websites you can't use the lorry stuff as it works in a different way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 You might want to read this thread entitled [url=http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=65920]03 2.0 HDi Refilling diesel additive tank[/url] from the Honest John forum.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave21478 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 What a farce! thats why I hate modern cars. Why should one car require a magic additive with a finite life and an expensive replacement cost when all other similar cars can do without? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 How will you get the little servicing spanner to stop flashing at you on the dash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 Give me a Ford Cortina engine any day, fuel, spark, bang (or not if its a diesel) and off you go [;-)] .I don't have any warning lights, messages etc on at the moment. I originally thought this was something that was done every service and was included in the price. How stupid can a bloke get, nothing is ever that simple.I did have some alarm about a year ago, something about pollution and they changed a sensor which cost about 100+ Euros, don't now if this was to do with this issue or not.From reading 'Honest John' and a few others I was hoping to be preemptive and just fill it up and carry on. Now it appears it works on some form of counter which when it times out thats it, even if you have half a tank left. After reading one blokes post, although he did have a warning message, and the cost of getting it all reset (in both time and money) I wondering if I should even bother, any thoughts?If you are a Citroen or Renault diesel owner dont get too smug, they all have this system it seems, well in modernish cars anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 If you want to know the consequence of the particulates filter in the Cit/Perg engines and what they can cost then have a gander at this...http://www.completefrance.com/cs/forums/1/984574/ShowPost.aspx#984574.The idea of the partic filter is to stop all the black smoke rubbish being chucked out of the back of the car on acceleration. This site gives the principle http://www.citroenet.org.uk/miscellaneous/5th-stroke/images/5thstrokebig.gifI was a member of a diesel forum that gave a boat load of info on this, but I can't find it since we got a new laptop? I will keep looking though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave21478 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Whats the worst case if you dont get this refilled? I assume it has an effect on emissions? What happened to the good ol days when "fuel additives" was a 25ml shot of redex every 2nd tank of petrol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 [quote user="LyndaandRichard"]How will you get the little servicing spanner to stop flashing at you on the dash?[/quote]This might help L&R?http://www.scantool.net/forum/index.php?topic=964.0;prev_next=prevEdit:- Quillan, I have just found yet another site that gives a definate fix if you ever get in the position of the 'get you home mode' kicking in. It's a cracker!!http://www.citroen-owners-club.co.uk/citroen/lofiversion/index.php?t7037.htmlWell it made me laugh anyway. The bloke is obviously a great mechanic (or is that maniac?) It is a C8, but essentially the same engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 << Give me a Ford Cortina engine any day, fuel, spark, bang (or not if its a diesel) and off you go >> The day I see a pre cross flow, Kent or Pinto engine with 200,000 miles up without a rebuild I will be amazed. I have made 150,000 miles out of an A series but it did have an oil cooler with thermostat,K&N air filter and oil changes very 3,000 miles.and a lot of tender loveing care in the engine build in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1steveuk Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 [quote user="Anton Redman"]<< Give me a Ford Cortina engine any day, fuel, spark, bang (or not if its a diesel) and off you go >> The day I see a pre cross flow, Kent or Pinto engine with 200,000 miles up without a rebuild I will be amazed. I have made 150,000 miles out of an A series but it did have an oil cooler with thermostat,K&N air filter and oil changes very 3,000 miles.and a lot of tender loveing care in the engine build in the first place[/quote]An A series? bloody hell!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Lets get back to hi technology "CITROEN"http://www.pembleton.co.uk/ePAG/ePAG31/2CV.wmv[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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