newbiee Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 I've been advised that a CU isn't necessary for a buidling on ones land other than the house ... ie, a barn attached to the house.Can anybody confirm this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr orloff Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 A CU is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Trollope Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 [quote user="dr orloff"]A CU is required.[/quote]Sorry to disagree, but I doubt if this is the case - as the property would appear to have a dwelling on it already.A permis de construire would (probably) be required, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judie Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 I have to agree with the second poster. Any building attached or not, that has never been a habitation or dwelling place will need a positive CU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr orloff Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Nick, surely a permis de construire cannot be granted without a CU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJSLIV Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 You can always apply for a Permis de Construire without a CU, which is only a statement confirming the planning rules that currently apply to a site. It in no way changes the zoning of the site.The benefit is that once you have the CU they can't change the rules during the CU's period of validity. Also they cannot add any additional charges other than those stated in the CU.Equally if you are about to buy a piece of land it confirms what you have been told by the vendor or their agent. This clearly doesn't apply if you already own the land, unless you can't trust yourself!http://www.droitdelurbanisme.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=84&Itemid=77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 A non-habitable building - like a stone barn for example - attached to an existing house (provided they both sit on the same land parcel) does not need a separate C.U. The CU (or implied CU) for the house covers the entire structure.It's academic of course, because you still need a P de C to do anything more than keep animals in it !paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Trollope Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Which is exactly what I said! The OP did say "barn attached to the house".I've done a couple just like this, so my comments are based on real-world experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr orloff Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Nobody has said that a separate CU is required. A positive CU is still required though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Sorry Nick, I wasn't ignoring or contradicting you post, merely fleshing it out a little!Dr Orloff - you're taking us round in circles ! if the land has a house on it already, then - ipso facto - it already has what you term 'a positive' CU (although the idea of a negative CU. sounds like a contradiction in terms!).paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr orloff Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I didn't think I was taking anyone around in circles. There might be restructions on the agricultural elements of the property. It happened to someone around here - they found out about it too late. It is probably rare but it happens so I personally wouldn't assume that you can just go ahead and get your plans drawn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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