yoko Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Brought out a new English gas cooker because can't get double oven here in France. Got someone to change the burners for LPG. All well until he tried to connect the butane bottle. The cooker has what I guess you would call a female connection and so does the flexible metal hose from the gas. fPlease tell me there's an easily available 'adaptateur' .yoko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 There is an easily available "adaptateur"There told you [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Trollope Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Aha aha aha. But there ain't...Be aware that this sort of work must be undertaken by a Qualigaz engineer (like CORGI in the UK), and he/she will know how to connect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Never said it was legal [:)]Always facinates me how the rules, blah blah blah, then down at the brico's they will sell you a gas pipe to be secured by a jubilee clipIn all seriousness take note of what Nick says for your own safety. Get it modified professionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 A jubilee clip sounds a bit over the top, why not just push it on like most caravanners?Oh and make sure that the pipe has the correct NF marking "à remplacer avant 1988" [6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Plombier Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 You need a black iron male/male taper nippleIt must be this and nothing else as the steel nipples have taper threads and this is required for the connectionThe person who converted your cooker obviously does not know what he is doingLe Plombier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 I don't think that is the case Le Plombier, the gas jets were changed but a number of uk appliances are the other way round to the french re male/ female fittings like regulators to gas bottle etc.Like wise the suggestion of converting DIY, if you have to ask a question you should not be doing the job, it should be done by someone who knows what they are doing and applying gas tight sealant.EDIT, I really did not put that over very well, I am not criticising just adding comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 I had a Stoves range style cooker in UK and when I asked about new jets to use with bottled gas in France, they flatly refused to sell them to me and told me to buy another cooker in France[blink] assumed it was a sales pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Or just plain old ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 [quote user="teapot"] .......if you have to ask a question you should not be doing the job........ [/quote]Rubbish, how does anyone learn how to do anything in that case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Easy tiger,What you say is true, in the case of "adapting" gas appliances safety is key and in the event of an accident insurance companies take a different view and also the law.There is nothing wrong with asking if there is an adapter available beyond that, how do I ??????? in the case of gas that should be passed to a certified person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 OP never asked "how do I?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 True,as I said I did not put over the point very well, it was not a cristicism just a comment relating to gas modifications in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Plombier Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Unbelievable !For clarification, on the back of the cooker there is a 1/2bsp female threadOn the end of the gas flexible there is a female union joint and washerTo join the two you need a black malleable iron male/male 1/2 hexagon nipple This has taper threadsDo not use a brass fitting as it has parallel threads and does not comply with the regulationsJointing tape and jointing compounds used must have the blue ATG stampBetter still use a gas qualified installer to do it for you, test the installation and make sure you are safeApart from the connection of the gas supply does your installation comply with the regulations in regard to ventilationJubilee clips and all the other rubbish put forward is not in complaince with the regulationsThe way you lot go on you might as well use a bike tyre inner tube and two jubilee clips based on the reasoned argument that it will withstand the pressureGet real you lot you are talking about a very dangerous substanceLe Plombier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Calm down, Calm down,No one on this thread sugested using a jubilee clip, it is an observation of what can be purchased from Brico's. It is precisely why I said for safety and insurance purposes you should have the mods carried out by a registered person.FYI on the back of my cooker it is terminated with a male 1/2 BSP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 You see, I said why bother with the jubilee clip [:P][quote user="Le Plombier"]Unbelievable! The way you lot go on you might as well use a bike tyre inner tube and two jubilee clips based on the reasoned argument that it will withstand the pressure Get real you lot you are talking about a very dangerous substance Le Plombier[/quote]Been there, done that, got the singed eyebrows [6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 [quote user="Chancer"] A jubilee clip sounds a bit over the top, why not just push it on like most caravanners?[/quote]What!!!???? Whatever gives you that idea? Most caravanners, me included, would be most insulted! [:-))]For a caravan to receive its immatriculation here in France it must pass a gas inspection; one of the checkpoints is a securely fastened gas pipe.Not that any of this helps the OP of course, so why mention caravanners in the first place!.Sid caravanner [:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riff-Raff Element Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 [quote user="Chancer"]You see, I said why bother with the jubilee clip [:P][quote user="Le Plombier"]Unbelievable! The way you lot go on you might as well use a bike tyre inner tube and two jubilee clips based on the reasoned argument that it will withstand the pressure Get real you lot you are talking about a very dangerous substance Le Plombier[/quote]Been there, done that, got the singed eyebrows [6][/quote]Next time try reinforcing the inner tube with a bit of duct tape. This also makes a fine more-or-less gas tight seal for attaching at both ends. Simple. [:P]The jubilee clips appear to have an NF marking on them as do the tubes - are these worthless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoko Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 Thank you for your clear explanation of what I need. It means nothing to me, of course, but presumably I have to get this part in England? The tradesman who changed the burners for me said he will fit the part and test for leaks if I can get hold of what is needed.Sorry to ask another question.Best wishes, yoko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosub Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 You can buy this part in France, from most of the large Brico places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Plombier Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 If the back of the cooker terminates in a male thread it is because the required fitting is already installed, look at it closelyYou can get the fitting at most bricos and professional plumbing and heating merchantsAny professional plumber in France would know this and where to get the fittingLe Plombier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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